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Old 04-16-2013, 06:23 AM   #76
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I did not say that Croatia was perfect. I am not proud of Ustasha history my country had. I have to tell you not all Croatians were Ustasha.

Nowadays Ustasha and their followers are looked upon as people living in the past and dreaming of something that does not exist. Wearing Ustasha symbols is not permitted in Croatia.

I wonder is it same for Chetniks and Serbia? My grandma's village was burnt during the WWII.

I know about Jews and the Ottoman Empire. That were also hard times for people on these lands. For example kids would be taken from their mothers in Croatia, Serbia and taught muslim religion. Some of them were the best warriors Turks ever had.

You and me know history is really hard to tell in this region. Even our historians can't get a long with a lot of facts.

I was mainly speaking about Serbian state of mind that seems to never change. That is only bad for you guys. We have been neighbors for so many years, we married your girls and you guys married our girls. Your and my people went to universities all across Croatia and Serbia.

We accepted the European Union and its values. I sincerely hope you guys will someday too. For that to happen you have to change and you have to say sorry for all the wrongs you did in the past (I am especially talking about the Homeland War).

You guys see that even the International Community is not buying your stories and excuses.

When those positive things happen then in some near future maybe we can build Europe together and not just the Balkans!
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:45 AM   #78
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Sometimes people care less about being dirty than you care about being clean. If you genuinely care about every space being clean - like is going to be hell until you have enough money to purchase your own space.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:10 AM   #79
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Yes it is banned by the law. I can assure you most of the people who wore those kind of symbols had to pay a fine or were imprisoned.

I am sorry that some of them get away with it.

I could do the same for you guys; google pictures of you guys wearing chetnik hats and uniforms during concerts, soccer games or some other "cultural" events.

The point I am trying to make is that there is still a big number of people who idolize chetnik's ideology. In Croatia there is a big contrast. Even Thompson was not sued for all the lyrics he sang out during concerts he had all around the World.

I am sorry that people who really want democracy in Serbia are overshadowed by the other side who has not done anything positive up to this point. They should have been in historic books and not in political life of Serbia.

Maybe we should stop right here with this discussion because I don't wanna ruin the thread. We could go on and on when in the end the Int'l Tribune will probably make a final standing what happened. I guess the majority of story has already been confirmed by the court.

Pozdrav susjed/komšija! ;)
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Old 04-16-2013, 05:24 PM   #81
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Lots of Balkans pride in the thread.

I always had the impression that the west (western Europe) doesnt want a strong country in the Balkans.

And Macedonia is Bulgarian
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The staffing agency pays them a salary, but also bills them for services rendered. Creating a situation where they pay minimum wage in a legal sense but operate far below the cost level of the domestic workforce. It's a loophole. The Poles don't get jobs because they work harder, they get jobs because they cost less than minimum wage and can easily be exploited.
Same situation with bulgarians as well. But thats what happen when uninformed and uneducated people are forced(out of misery) to emigrate. These so called agency take full advantage of such people.
As for UK, bulgarians currently can work as self employed, but there are agencies that offer house cleaning service and have contacts of bulgarian maids that work for them. They get an order>send "self empoyed"maid to clean the house> get paid> pay pennies to the worker that did the actual work.
At your earlier remark in the thread about my knowledge of the EU, you're correct.


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When those positive things happen then in some near future maybe we can build Europe together and not just the Balkans!

Dont mean to be rude but wtf does that mean?
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:41 PM   #82
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You are not rude.

To build = in a way to co operate and make countries in the region better (economically and socially). Just like countries in the EU wanna build better Europe.

I am not gonna comment on Serbian propaganda anymore. My dad fought Chetnik's who did a massacre in the nearby towns. My dad also got shot in a leg by chetnik's.
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