The Jazz broke apart a 43-win team and received nothing in return
2 firsts, 3 2nds, 3 expiring contracts and cash isn't exactly what I'd call nothing and it sounds like they are still looking on getting more out of what's left of their cap space. Would they have got this much if they'd traded their guys before the trade deadline as everyone thought they should do?
All five fit together, something teams that build through the draft are rarely able to pull off.
Remains to be seen how Burke fits. Gobert and Neto look like they could certainly.
While they made the playoffs only once in the last three years, they were always in the hunt
They were in the hunt until they traded Deron 3 years ago. Than they had the worst meltdown in league history.
the most important lessons might have come in practice, where Favors and Kanter battled 1-on-1 with Jefferson, one of the best post scorers in the NBA.
I'm sure they got nothing from battling the other vets.
Neither is a great perimeter shooter
Kanter looks like he very well could be.
Hayward, Burks and Burke don’t need to be great for the Jazz to be successful. If they are just average, Utah will have a good starting five.
Good doesn't cut it. Someone has to be great. Someone has to be a go to guy. Remains to be seen if any of them fit that bill.
As long as he can maintain his three-point shooting numbers (36 percent on 1.4 attempts last season), he’ll be a great fit in Utah.
Hitting the 3 is nice but it's not what will make him a great fit.
The real struggle for Utah will be replacing their young bench, not their starters. Their six most frequently used lineups last season, all stacked with mediocre veterans, had negative point differentials. Now, with 3 players moving into the starting line-up, the Jazz have next to nothing left on their bench. To be a playoff team, they’ll need Rush (ACL) and Marvin Williams (Achilles) to recover from serious injuries and either Rudy Gobert or Jeremy Evans to take a step forward upfront.
How the starters do assuming they go with all the young guys is what it all comes down to. Their bench has been big the past couple years but now they are starting.
The Nets were not even in Brooklyn two years ago, they were in New Jersey — and struggling. And then they gave Favors, Harris (since traded for Marvin Williams), their 2011 first-round pick (Kanter), another first-rounder (Burke, in essence) and cash to the Jazz for Deron Williams.
The pick helped them get Burke but hard to say in essence.
Raul Neto: The Jazz are not interested in me this year. They just hired another guard who was drafted along with me Basketeria
Jody Genessy: This isn't surprising that Raul Neto won't play in NBA yet if it turns out to be true. Jazz wouldn't mind him getting more Euro experience. Twitter @DJJazzyJody
Why can't he play in the D-league instead of a 2nd division Spanish league? I think it comes down to the fact that they will look bad if he out plays Burke and also might make them more competitive when obviously they are shooting for gold in the lottery. He only makes 100,000 in Spain so it's not like his buyout should be a problem. He would pay it just for the pay raise.
Easiest way to tank. Minor league gaurds. The head scratcher to me was butchering the draft. That wasn't needed to tank
If Lucas is in the rotation it's definitely a sure sign they are tanking although it sounds like maybe they plan on playing Burks at both guard positions again and Lucas will be at the end of the bench hopefully where he belongs.
What was your idea for the draft? I liked McCollom personally but Burke was the highest rated pg and that was the position they needed though I think more of a combo guard to play with Hayward and Burks makes sense. Sounds like Burke could fit that role though he didn't look like he was anywhere near ready for the NBA in the summer league. The fact that he dropped and he's the one guy they didn't work out seems a bit risky but they've said the workouts is a small part of their process. Obviously they had scouted him.
Hard to complain about the other two picks that they bought and who both looked like great fits in SL.
The Utah Jazz announced today that Brad Jones has been promoted to an assistant coach on Tyrone Corbin's staff, after having spent the 2012-13 season as assistant coach/player development. Jones joins returning assistants Sidney Lowe and Michael Sanders on Corbin's staff.
I read somewhere he was their best pg coach after he sat on the bench with Burke the game they sat him out. Not sure if it's true but until Stock comes aboard they obviously need someone.
Favors has spent the summer training alongside Jazz legend Karl Malone, who turns 50 on Wednesday and "could come out here and still hold his own," Favors said.
Malone, who won Olympic gold medals in 1992 and 1996 as a member of Team USA, was notorious for his training regimens, and Favors said that holds true.
"When I’m with him," Favors said, "the intensity picks up. Whenever you do 10 [reps], now you work out with him you got to do 20. You shoot 100 shots, now you got to shoot 500 with him. So, the intensity goes up when I work out with him."
Favors had bulked up noticeably — a point observed also by Hayward — although the fourth-year forward said he has added muscle but maintained his playing weight. Last season, the 6-foot-10 Favors was listed at 263 pounds; on the Team USA roster, he was listed at 248.
Favors said conditioning is the key to his offseason, although he has spent about one hour each day working in the weight room, on skills and conditioning.
Hayward, meanwhile, said he has gotten a new skills coach this summer after the man he previously worked with, Ed Schilling, left Hayward’s native Indianapolis for a job as a UCLA assistant.
Penciled in as the Jazz’s starting shooting guard, Hayward said he is working on ballhandling and shooting, but also addressing his troubles with finishing at the rim.
I'd think he'd be at the 3.
In 2009, Hayward played on the national team that won the FIBA Under-19 World Championship in New Zealand.
"I’ve been lucky enough to play for one of the youth teams," Hayward said. "And there’s nothing like it. Playing in high school and college and the NBA, there’s nothing like playing for your country."
Team USA coach Mike Krzyzewski declined to comment on the first day performances of individual players because there were so many.
Hayward reminisced about previous opportunities he’s had to play for his country, including his standout stint in 2009 with the gold-winning U-19 squad in New Zealand. (Favors was invited to play for Basketball USA in high school, but had to withdraw due to a family situation.)
“It’s a great experience,” Hayward said. “Any time you come here and you get to put 'USA' on your chest and compete against the best, play under the best coaches, you’ve got to soak it all up.”
Hayward and Favors are trying to continue making a favorable impression on USA Basketball managing director Jerry Colangelo and head coach Mike Krzyzewski this week. The Jazz players are among 28 young up-and-coming Americans — Paul George, Kyrie Irving, Damian Lillard and John Wall are among the group's elite — who could earn spots on national teams, including for the 2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup and the 2016 Rio Olympics.
Both Jazz players share a common desire to be Team USA teammates in the future.
“I’m just out here playing, trying to compete, trying to earn me a spot on the team,” said Favors, who had one strong move to the hoop for a layup in the short scrimmage. “I’m just trying to do anything, whether it’s defense or rebounding, talking on defense, blocking shots, running the court — just anything to separate myself, something to catch their eye.”
Hayward said he’s using this week — the mini-camp ends with a public scrimmage Thursday at the Thomas & Mack Center — as another “learning experience.” The 6-8 small forward’s hustle on defense caused a few turnovers in the final scrimmage. He also joked that Favors got away with a foul on him.
“You just come out here and compete,” Hayward said. “That’s all they ask you to do — play hard, play the right way. You don’t need to put on a scoring clinic or anything, just go out and do the right thing.”
Do that enough times, and you might get lucky enough to play alongside LeBron James, Chris Paul & Co. with a gold medal on the line.
“You’re put into these environments to show you can play and to show you belong, to get a tryout to make the team,” Hayward said. “I’ve been lucky enough to play for one of the youth teams, and there’s nothing like it. Playing in high school and college and in the NBA, there’s nothing like playing for your country.”
One thing that might top that?
Playing for your country with a trusted teammate.
“I think we’ve both come a long way,” Hayward said of himself and Favors. “We still have a lot more work to do, but I wouldn’t have any other big guy than Fav-O with me.”
Throughout the 2012-13 season, Hayward and Favors spoke positively of how their Team USA experience boosted their self-esteem and level of play.
"I think I've shown that I belong in the league. It's something that you work for and you work towards. Now I think I know that I belong," Hayward said of his 2012 experience just before last season. "Now you push yourself even further, try and become an All-Star.”
And an Olympian.
Likewise, Favors said he loved the “tough and competitive” practices with the best of the U.S. It helped him better understand how he has to work to make it in the NBA, especially in terms of conditioning.
"I learned that I could compete with those guys," Favors said in an interview after his 2012 experience. "But at the same time, l learned that I've got a lot of work to do to be on their level consistently."
This year, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony and the country’s biggest stars won’t be in Las Vegas, but Favors recalled that even scoring just four points against the elite players felt like scoring 20.
"Basically, it was that hard to score against them," Favors said. "It was an eye-opener, let you know that you are good but there are people out there that are way better and you need to work more."
NOTES: The players will have three days of closed practices at UNLV, beginning Monday afternoon. An intrasquad game Thursday night at the Thomas & Mack Arena will be open to the public and broadcast live on NBA-TV (7 p.m. MT). … Smart and Creighton forward Doug McDermott are the only college players participating this week. ... Twenty-one players have USA Basketball experience, but Davis is the only participant who was on the 2012 Olympic team.