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Old 05-13-2013, 03:49 PM   #211
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Basically, your cry has been that he's playing like dog shit because he isn't LeBron or Durant.

That's like saying Nas is wack because he isn't Biggie or Tupac.
Who should we compare him to? This si what I want to know. You want to compare him to Rudy Gay?

If he is a superstar then dont you compare him to other superstars or you compare him to the average joes?
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Tyson Chandler being on the All Defense 1st team is the biggest joke in the world lmao
It would be a joke if it was true, he wasn't 1st team last year

But anwser the question....

Whom am i to compare Carmelo Anthony to?

i can't compare him to the better players because thats not fair, so who?\

Oh...you meant this year?

Well deserved, as he was the only player in the starting lineup that played defense other than shump.

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It would be a joke if it was true, he wasn't 1st team last year

But anwser the question....

Whom am i to compare Carmelo Anthony to?

i can't compare him to the better players because thats not fair, so who?\

Oh...you meant this year?

Well deserved, as he was the only player in the starting lineup that played defense other than shump.
It seems like franchize is right,this must be Mike Breen.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:23 PM   #214
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I will ask again....

Whom should i compare Carmelo Anthony to if LeBron and Durant isn't fair?
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I will ask again....

Whom should i compare Carmelo Anthony to if LeBron and Durant isn't fair?
Really no one. He's clearly the 3rd best player at his position,after LeBron and Durant.
As much as it's a knock on LeBron to compare him with Melo it's a knock on Melo to compare him with Monta Ellis who's a much worse and much smaller version of him. Same with all other players at his position.
It basically goes:
LeBron


Durant

Melo



everyone else

But if you look at other great players and what they have done this season:
Kobe - barely got the team with 4 HOFers to the playoffs
Dwight - immature idiot
Deron Williams - lost to crippled Chicago team and was invisible in the clutch,when the game mattered the most
Derrick Rose - afraid to play
Paul Pierce - Shot 37% and couldn't even average 20 points against us
Chris Paul - had an efficient series but still averaged only 6 assists,maybe even got outplayed by Mike Conley
James Harden - shot 39% in a run and gun series
Stephen Curry - one guy that played great so far but both series are basically run and gun so if they get past the Spurs I think he'll have a huge problem when facing the Grizzlies as well as I think he wouldn't be as near as effective in the Eastern Conference playoffs.

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Old 05-14-2013, 06:12 AM   #216
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Default Re: 2013 Knicks Playoff Run thread

Clutch how long you been watching basketball? Do you have the NBA package or you prefer to box scores?

Melo cant hold Kobe's jock strap... Kobe played with 3 oft injured players with a bad coach that brought the Lakers into the playoffs from how many games behind with a week or 2 left in the season before tearing his achilles?

Deron didnt get it done but he tried. Had a good 1st round too bad none of his sidekicks showed up. This dude needs to get his mind right.

PP you criticize PP for shooting 37% but its ok for Melo to shoot 39%. Had Rondo and Sullinger been there things could have been different. He's old now and has his championship.

CP3 made the Clippers without CP3 those guys are str8 trash. He played well.

The Beard is a straight baller and superstar. He took those cast of characters to a 8th seed pretty much all by himself in a tough West with barely any help. He delivers and makes players better.

Steph Curry is just a baller. Once that ankle got shakey his game has changed. He just makes everyone around them better.

Derek Rose afraid to play? I wont make presumptions or assumptions on that. If I had any doubts I wouldnt play either. Derek is a superstar with the weight of the city on his shoulders and shump is a small bit role player in comparison.

To me Derek Rose, CP3, Kobe are better than Melo. I dont believe in 1 hit wonders but THE BEARD is a STUDD!

But I think you proved the point. Melo isnt near the level of Durant and LBJ.

We should stop trying to get this guy to be a great all around player and leader just accept he has elite scoring skills at high volume.
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Harden is nowhere near Melo. He shoots a low percentage despite playing run and gun basketball,he gets calls from the refs (he's Durant 2.0) and chokes when it matters. HE GOT OUTPLAYED BY DEREK FISHER.
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I will ask again....

Whom should i compare Carmelo Anthony to if LeBron and Durant isn't fair?
I didn't say it wasn't fair. I said if that's who you go to for comparisons, then Melo is already worth the money. If the only 2 guys you can use to say "he's better", are the 2 best players in the league, then he must be really good.

I don't have to go to the 2 best centers in the league to compare Tyson Chanlder. I can point to the fact that our backup PF is doing a better job playing center than him lol
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Harden is nowhere near Melo. He shoots a low percentage despite playing run and gun basketball,he gets calls from the refs (he's Durant 2.0) and chokes when it matters. HE GOT OUTPLAYED BY DEREK FISHER.
You are nuts. Harden was sick during the first series and still did his thing with no one else. When does a bench rider get to play better than a superstar a whole series. Did Fisher have a nice game or 2 sure. But its still Harden vs another team.

I dont believe in boosting 1 year wonders against well established players but yeah The Beard was studdly this year. I never said Beard was better FYI


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To me Derek Rose, CP3, Kobe are better than Melo. I dont believe in 1 hit wonders but THE BEARD is a STUDD!

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I didn't say it wasn't fair. I said if that's who you go to for comparisons, then Melo is already worth the money. If the only 2 guys you can use to say "he's better", are the 2 best players in the league, then he must be really good.

I don't have to go to the 2 best centers in the league to compare Tyson Chanlder. I can point to the fact that our backup PF is doing a better job playing center than him lol
There are other players better than him. The guy is the 2nd best scoring talent in the league.

I dont need him to be Durant or LBJ all I ever wanted from him was to be leader, be smarter, play defense, rebound (which he's done adequately), increase his play making ability.

You dont have to sell me on this stuff no more though he isnt that guy.

No he should not be traded at least he's better than Rudy Gay. You realize that if Rudy took 10 more shots thats who we got? Since no one is making the subtle connection.

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Iman going to see a specialist about his knee...

Not good. But no excuses.
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There are other players better than him. The guy is the 2nd best scoring talent in the league.

I dont need him to be Durant or LBJ all I ever wanted from him was to be leader, be smarter, play defense, rebound (which he's done adequately), increase his play making ability.

You dont have to sell me on this stuff no more though he isnt that guy.

No he should not be traded at least he's better than Rudy Gay. You realize that if Rudy took 10 more shots thats who we got? Since no one is making the subtle connection.

I was referring to players at his position. My argument is, you can rip the guy as much as you want, but at the end of the day, only 2 other players are better than him at his position. And neither one of those players are available via trade or free agency.
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I was referring to players at his position. My argument is, you can rip the guy as much as you want, but at the end of the day, only 2 other players are better than him at his position. And neither one of those players are available via trade or free agency.
Which position would that be and just because he has the best offensive repitoire does NOT mean he is the best.
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Which position would that be and just because he has the best offensive repitoire does NOT mean he is the best.
When did I say he was the best? And he's still a SF in my eyes.


I'm done talking about this. If you can't see Melo has been worth every cent...so be it. I beg to differ but that's my opinion. The bigger issue at hand is, how are we going to win? I obviously, think Chandler's comments were out of line and can be detrimental to our team. Shumpert may be out for this game. I'm still looking for the "leadership" we overpaid for. What's up? Who's going to step up....or are our guys going to fold and allow everyone to blame Melo again? End of the day, when we lose, we all lose. So who's going to step up and stop that from happening?
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When did I say he was the best? And he's still a SF in my eyes.


I'm done talking about this. If you can't see Melo has been worth every cent...so be it. I beg to differ but that's my opinion. The bigger issue at hand is, how are we going to win? I obviously, think Chandler's comments were out of line and can be detrimental to our team. Shumpert may be out for this game. I'm still looking for the "leadership" we overpaid for. What's up? Who's going to step up....or are our guys going to fold and allow everyone to blame Melo again? End of the day, when we lose, we all lose. So who's going to step up and stop that from happening?
Lord if Jr and Shump are out. Boy this team is going to need some serious voo doo majik help!

I think Felton will show up. Copeland will show up because I dont think he knows any better to be scared in the playoffs.
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