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Old 08-10-2012, 11:34 AM   #1
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Default 2012-13 EC predictions (before the season starts)

And yes, i'm making this thread because of Jballer. I would like to just bump the other 4-5 threads where he has 10 teams definitely a ahead of us but i'd rather just keep it simple and have a prediction thread of the EC standings.

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- 2 points for each correct team in the exact spot
- 16 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in in exact order.
- 10 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in any order.
- 4 bonus points for 6 playoff teams in any order

Last years final standings
1. Chicago 50-16
2. Miami 46-20
3. Indiana 42-24
4. Boston 39-27
5. Atlanta 40-26
6. Orlando 37-29
7. New York 36-30
8. Philly 35-31
9. Milwaukee 31-35
10. Detroit 25-41
11. Toronto 23-43
12. NJ 22-44
13. Cleveland 21-45
14. Washington 20-46
15. Charlotte 7-59

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Old 08-10-2012, 12:23 PM   #2
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Bokes15 predictions:

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indiana
4. NJ Nets
5. NY Knicks
6. Philly
7. Chicago
8. Milwaukee
9. Atlanta
10. Toronto
11. Washington
12. Detroit
13. Orlando
14. Cleveland
15. Charlotte

That's my official prediction but I really feel like 1-6 is pretty solid, it may not end up in that order but I feel strongly that those will be the top 6 teams in the EC. But then 7-13 i'm pretty unsure about because all of those teams have a lot of questions so we'll see what happens.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:40 PM   #3
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Bokes15 predictions:

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indiana
4. NJ Nets
5. NY Knicks
6. Philly
7. Chicago
8. Milwaukee
9. Atlanta
10. Toronto
11. Washington
12. Detroit
13. Orlando
14. Cleveland
15. Charlotte

That's my official prediction but I really feel like 1-6 is pretty solid, it may not end up in that order but I feel strongly that those will be the top 6 teams in the EC. But then 7-13 i'm pretty unsure about because all of those teams have a lot of questions so we'll see what happens.

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Chicago
4. Philly
5. Indy
6. Brooklyn
7. NY Knicks
8. Atlanta
9. Milwaukee
10. Toronto
11. Washington
12. Charlotte
13. Cleveland
14. Orlando
15. Detroit
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:44 PM   #4
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Interesting. I don't have a problem with those picks except for Chicago at 3 without Rose until March. I don't see that happening at all.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:29 PM   #5
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Default Re: 2012-13 EC predictions (before the season starts)

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Indianapolis
4. Philly
5. Chicago
6. Brooklyn
7. NY Knicks
8. Washington
9. Atlanta
10.Toronto
11.Milwaukee
12.Detroit
13.Cleveland
14 Charlotte
15.Orlando

I actually struggle with 9 through 12.

I feel solid on Washington making the playoffs - though other disagree here. Talent - experience - and an improvement to middling defence much like the Raptors were able to accomplish last year will move them up. Walls turnovers are a combination of "lacking talent to pass too", "trying to do too much on his own" and "sophmore jinx". With Nene / Okafur in the low post - lots of pick and rolls for Wall. Beal doesnt need to do much more than float to the open spot, stoke a wide open bucket or 5 or 10, and learn to play some dedicated D against guys that want to school him. The last will be hardest.

Toronto and Detroit - so much depends on deliverence of "upside" in multiple players - even moreso than other teams in the conference with rookies. Demar Derozan and Brandon Knight. Val and Drummond. The big men need to show up and also "get the calls from the refs in their favor" not just against them. Both have big men options that can score - Barges/Monroe.

Toronto should be ahead because KLow is a proven PG even though Tay is a proven swingman. Tay is older than Jesus - Klow is in his prime.

Both have cap (Detroit if it amnesties Charile V next year) and both will be interesting to see how they develop over the next 2 years.

Both teams will knock down a number of teams from above once the talent is proven or another player is added. Note most of the teams above have no cap room for 3+ years ! (Atlanta could have if they blow everyone off roster).

Should award points for this end of season

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Old 08-10-2012, 01:30 PM   #6
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Default Re: 2012-13 EC predictions (before the season starts)

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Brooklyn
4. Indiana

5. Chicago
6. New York

7. Philadelphia
8. Milwaukee
9. Atlanta
10. Toronto
11. Detroit
12. Cleveland

13. Washington
14. Orlando
15. Charlotte

I have to admit, this was one of the offseasons that I haven't followed very closely, and some teams could be out of place based on moves I am unaware of.
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Default Re: 2012-13 EC regular season prediction game

Ok so official Rules:
- 2 points for each correct team in the exact spot
- 16 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in in exact order.
- 10 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in any order.
- 4 bonus points for 6 playoff teams in any order
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:13 PM   #8
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Wizards... been saying it .. funny timing other see it too:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-season/page/6

Wall
Beal
Vesely / Ariza
Okafur
Nene

Crawford off the bench.

Compared to

Lowry
Derozan
Landry Fields/ Kliza
Bargnani
Val

Ross off the bench.
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I'm still not seeing what you're seeing. That's not a significantly better team than ours.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:48 PM   #10
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My memory is hazey, can someone please tell me why Chicago wouldn't be struggling to make the playoffs? How long is rose out for? What offseason moves did they make?

I'm also thinking we can finish ahead of ATL and the bucks.

Miami - obvious
Boston - lost ray, but have jet and Avery coming back from injury
Indy - will win the central with rose being injured
Brooklyn - a lot of talent, injuries will play a role due to thin roster
Philly - could finish ahead of the nets, I feel their success will depend on turner
NY - too much talent to finish lower, but not enough to beat Brooklyn due to dwill facilitating vs melo hindering the offense. Philly should have better chemistry and will have Bynum anchoring an already stiffling defense
Chicago - if rose comes back early enough, they will still make the post season. The rest of the team will need to hold it down, and deng possibly skipping the wrist surgery could be a bad decision.
Washington - wall was supposed to explode last year. I think his breakout will be this year with a regular schedule and training camp.
Toronto - I think they will finish just shy of the playoffs.

Don't really feel like thinking the rest of the EC standings...
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My memory is hazey, can someone please tell me why Chicago wouldn't be struggling to make the playoffs? How long is rose out for?
I BEEN saying this. I don't know if people just believe this team without Rose is much better than I think it is, but Rose is likely out for most of the season. The reports have been out that he is out until late March. The regular season ends in April, so best case scenario they probably get 10-15 games out of him. And he's not gonna come in as MVP Rose right away either.
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Default Re: 2012-13 EC predictions (before the season starts)

1. Miami
2. Indiana
3. Boston
4. Philly
5. Brooklyn
6. Chicago
7. NY Knicks
8. Atlanta
9. Milwaukee
10. Toronto
11. Cleveland
12. Washington
13. Charlotte
14. Detroit
15. Orlando

10-15 im really not too sure, i think it could be a jumpball

8/9 could be interchangeable, I think Milwaukee has a slight edge on Atlanta in terms of their backcourt but Atlanta still has the more talented frontcourt

5-7 to me are very fluid depending on how Chicago does without Rose and how well the Knicks do in general

I think 1-4 is pretty much set, the only question mark being philly but I really think the trade makes them a much more dangerous team. They now have a deep post threat as opposed to last year, and evan turner and jrue holiday look to be turning the corner in terms of their development

Indiana to me is the sleeper even though I have them at 2, they really should be in the ECF when all is said and done.
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Ok so official Rules:
- 2 points for each correct team in the exact spot
- 16 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in in exact order.
- 10 bonus points for all 8 playoff teams in any order.
- 4 bonus points for 6 playoff teams in any order

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1. Miami
2. Indy
3. Boston
4. Philly
5. NYK
6. Brooklyn
7. Atlanta
8. Chicago
9. Toronto
10. Washington
11. Milwaukee
12. Detroit
13. Cleveland
14. Charlotte
15. Orlando
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Interesting. I don't have a problem with those picks except for Chicago at 3 without Rose until March. I don't see that happening at all.

Chicago bulls record without derek rose 18-9

they will be fine.

they only really need him for the post-season.
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