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Old 04-27-2013, 05:17 PM   #61
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Thanks p.tiddy, I'm gonna have to look at that. What do you think of this man's testimony?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTU7MfOgDKM

http://www.aglimpseofeternity.org/

there are many more like it too
have not heard of this guy, I'll have to read up when I can...

I am sure he is being honest and sincere...
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:17 PM   #62
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What do you make of the fact that the people who created those characters in the Old Testament deny Hey-Seus is the prophesied messiah?
Really? Even though we have copies from centuries before the lifetime of Jesus?

Also many Jews accept Jesus as the Messiah, they are called Messianic Jews. The Bible even said that God will become God of the gentiles and that the Jews would reject their Messiah as they killed the prophets of old.
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:27 PM   #63
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^^^ this man is 71 years old and has been confined to a chair his whole life which I think it is safe to assume that can have negative effects to mental health

I don't think that's safe assume at all.

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he studies black holes which have jack shit to do with how everything came to exist, NO ONE KNOWS WHY THE BIG BANG HAPPENED OR WHY ANYTHING EXISTS...he doesn't know any more about "God" than anyone of us

He may not have the answers to everything, but he's an important figure in the scientific community and he's entitled to his own opinion. You're free to disagree with him, but the fact that you try to portray him as some insane old geezer and disregard his vast body of work rather than look at his actual arguments in regards to the existence of god I think says more about your own understanding of the subject.
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:30 PM   #64
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Really? Even though we have copies from centuries before the lifetime of Jesus?

Also many Jews accept Jesus as the Messiah, they are called Messianic Jews. The Bible even said that God will become God of the gentiles and that the Jews would reject their Messiah as they killed the prophets of old.

The Old Testament had very specific qualifications that the messiah had to fulfill. Jews reject Jesus because he clearly did not fit the bill, and they would obviously know best. They have no interest in waiting around for the second coming for him to finally live up to the prophecies, they've moved on and are still conducting interviews
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I don't think that's safe assume at all.



He may not have the answers to everything, but he's an important figure in the scientific community and he's entitled to his own opinion. You're free to disagree with him, but the fact that you try to portray him as some insane old geezer and disregard his vast body of work rather than look at his actual arguments in regards to the existence of god I think says more about your own understanding of the subject.
I'm not trying to portray him as some "insane old geezer"...I'm just saying that I think it is time for all of us to stop defaulting him as the smartest man on Earth...and also pointing out that his work/studies have nothing to do with "God"

and I do think it is safe to assume that being confined to a chair for decades has ill effects on mental health...it just has to
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I don't think there is proof that say God exists. But there is proof denying he does either. I am a believer by faith but if somebody proved me he doesn't exist is not like I am going to jump of a building and kill myself. I will continue to live life like I did and try to do all the good deeds as I can. Jesus did gave a great message of how to be a better person.
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