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Old 06-27-2006, 02:35 PM   #31
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Bargnani needs a nickname. I don't feel like writing his name anymore.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:38 PM   #32
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Bargnani needs a nickname. I don't feel like writing his name anymore.

How about...wait for it, wait for it...'MR. ROOT BEER'?
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:39 PM   #33
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Why is Bargnani the biggest chance of a bust? Because he's european?

Stereotype.

I fear it sometimes also. Look at all the other Euros that have entered the draft the past few years. Some of them just go back to their countries ala Franz Vaquez, Roko Ukic
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:40 PM   #34
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he's not guaranteed to be Dirk so it's irrelevant. And no matter how good he turns out to be you still have 3 players who are all the exact same and absolutely nothing else. Not only will Aldridge better, but he'll be a better fit, and he solves a GAPING hole, so what is there to think about.
Of course he's not guaranteed to be, we all know that. You said that he still wouldn't fit a NEED even if he was which is just stupid. Every team in the league would take a Dirk Nowitzki whether it fits a need or not.

The Raptors already drafted based on need once recently and they threw away an 8th overall pick. The Raptors are looking at the best talent available no matter what position and that is exactly what they should be doing at #1. If the management decides that it is Gay or Bargnani or Aldridge then fine. It's not like any of these guys are C's anyways. Both Bargnani and Aldridge may be able to play some minutes at C but they're far from being full-time fill ins at that position.


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I fear it sometimes also. Look at all the other Euros that have entered the draft the past few years. Some of them just go back to their countries ala Franz Vaquez, Roko Ukic
Those 2 had buyout issues. That is the reason Roko fell all the way to the 2nd round and Orlando was simply stupid.

Then you have players like Darko or Skita who were pretty much picked based on workouts and physical attributes rather than in game production (something Bargnani has on his side). I don't think he'll be a Dirk or Pau but to group him along with those other Euro's really isn't fair when you consider everything.

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Old 06-27-2006, 02:42 PM   #35
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Is there any way somebody could PM me the latest Insider articles? I'm talking about Katz' article about Gay at 1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...ame=katz_andy), and 2 of Ford's articles (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...ckDraft-060627, and http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...ckDraft-060626)

thanks in advance and im sorry for the trouble. this new system jeff put in blows.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:42 PM   #36
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You cant pass up great talent to satisfy a need. Toronto needs someone to back up the 3 & 4.

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Bargnani WILL play center if Toronto drafts him. He weighs ~250, is tall and can block shots (led his league in that category), and, while his upper body is skinny, his lower body is where the real meat is at - making him hard to push off the block.

Since when was he a low post player?

Give me Aldrdige over Bargnani.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:45 PM   #37
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Bargnani will be a backup SF/PF/C for his first year or two with the Raptors. He won't be starting at C or anywhere.

I think the long-term goal is to turn him into a C and simply force the other team to adjust matchups to the Raptors versatile frontcourt of him, Bosh and Charlie.

I'm thinking a better Mehmet Okur as a reasonable estimate for Bargnani (an almost best-cast scenario).

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Old 06-27-2006, 02:50 PM   #38
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He won't be starting at C - he will back-up Rasho there. Don't be silly, Charlie and Bosh are staying on the floor a lot more than Rasho, if a SF/PF/C is drafted he will come in for Rasho.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:54 PM   #39
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PG-?/Calderon/Martin/Barrett
SG-Pete/?
SF-Villy/Graham
PF-Bosh/Humpries
C-Rasho/Nagni/Sow
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The Bulls are full of shiit. They’re bluffing.

One good indication that they won’t select Bargnani ---- Paxson never even bothered to travel to Italy to see the guy play for himself. He sent one of his underlings to do it.

You're gonna stake your rep drafting a guy you've never seen play live. :rollingeyes:
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PG-?/Calderon/Martin/Barrett
SG-Pete/?
SF-Villy/Graham
PF-Bosh/Humpries
C-Rasho/Nagni/Sow

looking at that lineup, someone has to ask Colangelo about the PG situation. It's pretty clear Calderon can't hold his own right now.
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:03 PM   #42
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Bargnani needs a nickname. I don't feel like writing his name anymore.

The Nani. He is known for taking great care of his teammates, and likes to knit on the bench when not playing.
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:06 PM   #43
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The Nani. He is known for taking great care of his teammates, and likes to knit on the bench when not playing.


The Nani?
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:08 PM   #44
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He won't be starting at C - he will back-up Rasho there. Don't be silly, Charlie and Bosh are staying on the floor a lot more than Rasho, if a SF/PF/C is drafted he will come in for Rasho.
You don't spend the top pick in the draft on Rasho's back-up.
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:09 PM   #45
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It should have to do with his italian heritage. Like mr. WOP or WOPPER or soemthing like that.
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