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Old 05-09-2013, 02:54 AM   #76
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Aren't you profiting, in terms of enjoyment, from their sadness?


They're not sad though. They clearly think nothing is wrong with them otherwise they would be seeking treatment. If they were sad and depressed, then I would have pity and would wish them a speedy recovery into their previous normalcy, but these are crackheads acting like crackheads and thinking that nothing is wrong with them. What I love is the trainwreck that follows until one day, hopefully, they can recover. In all seriousness, if you cannot control your life because you abuse your body, then I have no sympathy for you. Coddling and wishing them well isn't going to solve it. These people are given plenty of chances in life and in many cases are given millions of dollars and yet they manage to screw it all up.

When you can admit that you have a problem, and if you seek out proper counsel, then I can respect you. I hope you guys can see where I'm coming from.
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:17 AM   #77
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They're not sad though. They clearly think nothing is wrong with them otherwise they would be seeking treatment. If they were sad and depressed, then I would have pity and would wish them a speedy recovery into their previous normalcy, but these are crackheads acting like crackheads and thinking that nothing is wrong with them. What I love is the trainwreck that follows until one day, hopefully, they can recover. In all seriousness, if you cannot control your life because you abuse your body, then I have no sympathy for you. Coddling and wishing them well isn't going to solve it. These people are given plenty of chances in life and in many cases are given millions of dollars and yet they manage to screw it all up.

When you can admit that you have a problem, and if you seek out proper counsel, then I can respect you. I hope you guys can see where I'm coming from.


well first of all your feeling of amusement or hate or whatever it is you feel toward them is partly what fans the flames. these girls often become famous because of the teeny boppers, but then stay famous because they become americas favorite targets. lindsay lohan doesnt do disney movies anymore. shes only still being covered in the news because so many people are rooting against her. lets face it, if you get enjoyment from picking on 'celebrities', not like joking about the dress they wore on the red carpet, but the way 20-something year old girls are seeing their lives ruined, you are no different than a kid who bullies another kid at school. you have the same motivation, you like seeing someone squirm and struggle. you can make up whatever justification you want why 'no, its different when i do it' but its just a cop out.

like i said, nobodys sayin u have to respect them or have sympathy. but you said it amuses you to see their lives crumble. some of these girls were given a whole bunch way too fast, had to transition into adulthood in the public eye, which can be very hard especially for young girls, and had family or social circles that were more opportunistic than supportive. obviously they fell in with the wrong crowds, made mistakes, etc. and are going through some emotional and personal struggles right now. i mean why even care at all? i dont root for or against them, they are people i dont know who dont even have productive careers in entertainment right now. why pay attention? thats what drives the coverage, which helps to exacerbate these peoples problems. and i especially dont see why it would entertain you to see them slowly go crazy from being overwhelmed by what was put on their plate at 15 years old or whatever and how far they've fallen.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:16 AM   #78
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As far as the whole celebrity thing, well, I feel sympathy for Amanda Bynes on some level because I think it's obvious that she's mentally ill and hasn't gotten the help she clearly needs. But Lindsey Lohan? I don't feel any sympathy because she continues to get arrested and get special treatment even with priors that none of us could dream of getting, and blows off simple things like community service. She strikes me as someone who thinks the law doesn't apply to them, and you know what? It seems she's right.

I don't know any of these people so I don't wish any bad things to happen to them, but if celebrities like Lindsey Lohan continue to act like the laws we all have to follow don't apply to them, and one judge finally treats them like everyone else, then they'll get what they deserve.

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When I found out about her existence, Miley was 14 and I 19. I don't consider14 to be "REALLY young" compared to a 19 year old. She is only five years younger than I. I still think she's gorgeous as a 20 year old, but 16 year old Miley was what I would consider perfection.


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Uh, 14 is REALLY young. That's a kid. 19 year olds should not be attracted to 14 year olds. At that point, the difference can't be referred to as "only 5 years" when you're a legal adult and she's barely a teenager. And honestly, a 25 year old man whose idea of perfection is a 16 year old girl is creepy.

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Old 05-09-2013, 11:05 AM   #79
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Obnoxious Kobe fans prevented me from liking him as much as I could have on the court, and now I can never look at that Kobe picture FiveRings has as his avy in the same way again. It gives it a new creep, rapist factor.

Such a shame, because Kobe doesn't deserve that. I should be able to separate fan from player, but it continues to taint his image in my eyes.
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:19 PM   #80
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Uh, 14 is REALLY young. That's a kid. 19 year olds should not be attracted to 14 year olds. At that point, the difference can't be referred to as "only 5 years" when you're a legal adult and she's barely a teenager. And honestly, a 25 year old man whose idea of perfection is a 16 year old girl is creepy.
Should not be attracted? Attraction is not a choice (see homosexuality). For most of human existence, most men got married to girls even younger than 14 and started having babies. In your favourite player Shaq's religion, Islam, to this day men are permitted to marry and have sex with girls at the age of nine, just as prophet Mohammad did.

You're naive if you believe most men are not attracted to 16 year old girls. Some of course will fight this attraction for whatever reason, but it's a perfectly normal attraction.


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Obnoxious Kobe fans prevented me from liking him as much as I could have on the court, and now I can never look at that Kobe picture FiveRings has as his avy in the same way again. It gives it a new creep, rapist factor.

Such a shame, because Kobe doesn't deserve that. I should be able to separate fan from player, but it continues to taint his image in my eyes.


On the topic of Amanda Bynes, I thought she was adorable when she was younger, and I'm not a fan at all of the new look. I like all natural girls. Not fake tits and facial surgery. Good on my man Kobe for hitting that before she ruined herself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fV1FP38ecI How great is our God?
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:56 PM   #81
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apparently Miley is #1 in Maxim top 100 hottest women... the standards for that magazine must have dropped at an all time low
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:02 PM   #82
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You're naive if you believe most men are not attracted to 16 year old girls. Some of course will fight this attraction for whatever reason, but it's a perfectly normal attraction.

The only 16 year old I would be attracted to is one that could fool men into thinking she's 18+.

But, if she's obviously 16 and has a bit more woman-growing to do, naw... not attracted. And, I dont have to fight an attraction because of moral reasons. I'm just not into it.

Then again, I'm really into hot MILF porn, so I just have a higher appreciation for the mature woman.
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:10 PM   #83
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Men are not attracted to 16 year old girls. What the hell is wrong with you. Hell, most the 20-22 year olds I see on campus are wayyyyyy to young for me.
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:39 PM   #84
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apparently Miley is #1 in Maxim top 100 hottest women... the standards for that magazine must have dropped at an all time low
I'm tearing up. So happy for her, that she's finally getting the respect she deserves.

I was about to say Maxim has just gained some credibility, but then I see AJ Lee and Ariana Grande missing from the list
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:06 AM   #85
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Should not be attracted? Attraction is not a choice (see homosexuality). For most of human existence, most men got married to girls even younger than 14 and started having babies. In your favourite player Shaq's religion, Islam, to this day men are permitted to marry and have sex with girls at the age of nine, just as prophet Mohammad did.

You're naive if you believe most men are not attracted to 16 year old girls. Some of course will fight this attraction for whatever reason, but it's a perfectly normal attraction.

Uh, what? Why should I care what Shaq's religion is, or what's considered acceptable in it? I have no religious beliefs myself, though I have somewhat of a Catholic background and we all know it's been common practice to this day to cover up molestation and move priests to different parishes when accusations are made. Every reasonable Catholic person I know thinks of this as reprehensible behavior.

And do you really want to get into things that were acceptable centuries ago? And I said that an adult being attracted to a 14 year old is not normal because it isn't, it's pedophilia. Not my opinion, it's a fact. You can't control urges(though you can control actions) but it doesn't mean those urges are normal. David Berkowitz had urges to kill because he believed a dog was telling him to. Is that normal?

And you're not doing yourself any favors by equating attraction to 14 year olds to homosexuality because that's the same argument NAMBLA and other similar, perverted groups use.

I also said that a 25 year old whose idea of perfection(your word, not mine) is a 16 year old is creepy. And I think most would agree.

I never said any form of attraction to anyone who happens to be 16 is abnormal. There are 16 year olds who don't get proofed when they go to bars, and do honestly look 21-22 years old. Miley wasn't one of them. And it's also different because it's not unreasonable to assume a girl in a bar is 21+, but Miley's age was obviously known.
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:32 AM   #86
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Uh, what? Why should I care what Shaq's religion is, or what's considered acceptable in it? I have no religious beliefs myself, though I have somewhat of a Catholic background and we all know it's been common practice to this day to cover up molestation and move priests to different parishes when accusations are made. Every reasonable Catholic person I know thinks of this as reprehensible behavior.

And do you really want to get into things that were acceptable centuries ago? And I said that an adult being attracted to a 14 year old is not normal because it isn't, it's pedophilia. Not my opinion, it's a fact. You can't control urges(though you can control actions) but it doesn't mean those urges are normal. David Berkowitz had urges to kill because he believed a dog was telling him to. Is that normal?

And you're not doing yourself any favors by equating attraction to 14 year olds to homosexuality because that's the same argument NAMBLA and other similar, perverted groups use.

I also said that a 25 year old whose idea of perfection(your word, not mine) is a 16 year old is creepy. And I think most would agree.

I never said any form of attraction to anyone who happens to be 16 is abnormal. There are 16 year olds who don't get proofed when they go to bars, and do honestly look 21-22 years old. Miley wasn't one of them. And it's also different because it's not unreasonable to assume a girl in a bar is 21+, but Miley's age was obviously known.

Small distinction but I don't think attraction to 14 year olds is pedophilia, because I believe pedophilia implies attraction to people who haven't reached puberty. There's a different word for people who are attracted to people in their early teens.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:46 AM   #87
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Small distinction but I don't think attraction to 14 year olds is pedophilia, because I believe pedophilia implies attraction to people who haven't reached puberty. There's a different word for people who are attracted to people in their early teens.

Well, I've heard both 13 and 14 as cut off years for pedophilia at least technically speaking. Either way, the point remains the same, and I think the exact age varies under some definitions based on how far into puberty the girl is. Either way, there still is a term for adults attracted to minors past the cut off point for pedophilia, and it's not considered normal.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:51 AM   #88
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Well, I've heard both 13 and 14 as cut off years for pedophilia at least technically speaking. Either way, the point remains the same, and I think the exact age varies under some definitions based on how far into puberty the girl is. Either way, there still is a term for adults attracted to minors past the cut off point for pedophilia, and it's not considered normal.
Lol @ cut off years. How does one come to that number? 13-14 yr olds are still kids.
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Old 05-10-2013, 11:51 AM   #89
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I never said any form of attraction to anyone who happens to be 16 is abnormal. There are 16 year olds who don't get proofed when they go to bars, and do honestly look 21-22 years old. Miley wasn't one of them. And it's also different because it's not unreasonable to assume a girl in a bar is 21+, but Miley's age was obviously known.
She barely looks any different now than she did a few years ago. Her body was almost fully matured already http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvjsNDZBWVQ

You do know that 16 year olds are not underage in Canada, where I am, and in some of the States, right?
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:41 PM   #90
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Those cheek piercings are atrocious... What is even the point of those.
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