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Old 05-08-2013, 04:26 PM   #16
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I don't know you at all

But, I'm sorry, that really sucks. I feel for you bro.

I love to play ball and if I broke something I'd be devastated.

I hope you recover well and can get back on the court.
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So last night marked my triumphant return to the glorious game of basketball!!!


A mere 9 and half months since tearing the achilles, and probably 10 weeks sooner than really expected. I've been coaching with my buddy his sons' team. We're in the under 9 year old division of a local youth program. It's been fun. Last year we dominated at Under 7, but we were actually good enough that he wanted to skip a division to drive his older son, who's on the cutoff for playing the level down. That would be fine, but all our parents asked for us as coaches, so now I have a bunch of kids who are really a year too young. It's fine, we've won a handfull of games, and the kids have learned a ton. His older son is really very good, and the younger one is only 6 and seriously holds his own.

Anyway, during practice, with the small ball, and on a 9 foot rim, I've been goofing around to a degree to see how my foot felt. I do layup lines. I do pattern drills. I'll run the occasional dribbling suicide. And in spite of some serious stiffness, it's never felt like it was gonna fall off.

So my buddy gets the call from the guy who runs our team for the men's league, and almost hesitantly tells me about it. I call Mark, and ask him if he's got room. I'm almost a perfect guy for a roster. Good enough to trust, but can't really push it playing time wise, so I can really be used for giving people short rests. I'm a talker on the court. Have always gotten along with people I play with. I'm a pass first kind of a dude. And I know enough that I can do things like doodle up plays at ends of games, manage substitions, and that sort of shit.
Mark says sure, just make sure no one has to carry me off the court this year.

I get to our first game last night. And mainly I'm just looking to run. See if I can. And while it's a slow trot, when I focus I can iron out any limp. Next is sliding. Latteral movement, while not something one associates with an achilles, actually concerns me, because the strength in my right calf has evaporated over the course of the year. So I can push one way much better than the other, and my fear is that I'm going to put way more pressure on that right knee than usual because my calf isn't going to be helping much. But again, with some focus, and cheating a bit, I can make it look ok. Fake it till you make it, as the saying goes.

The big test is getting off the ground, and then perhaps the scarier test after that is coming back down. If I try to jump and can't, fine. If I try to jump and can, well then I better hope I have the strenth to land, because I'm coming down one way or the other. So I go through layup lines, and I've been working on this in practice with the kids, jumping off of one foot. I haven't jumped off of one foot since like elementary school. I've been teaching the kids to do it, because it really does teach better form. And then you can go to two feet later on. I also teach jump stopping, but it's too hard to put them together at 7 and 8 years old. I've been a two foot jumper since somewhere about middle school, and had some pop in my day. But I'm really nervous about the amound of force that a jump stop will put on my foot. So I go through lines, and feel ok going off of my left foot. I land in a hoppity sort of 1-2 that reduces a lot of the impact on the healing foot.

We start the game with 8 guys, but a 9th shows up, and unfortunately it sounds like I have 2 more on the roster who aren't there. I'm not looking for too much. We run two 20 minute halves, and my aim was to get two 5 minute stretches out of it. I wound up with about a four minute go in the first half, and about an 8 minute run in the second. I was certainly not my old self. I was hesitant to bring the ball up court, perhaps as much due to rust as anything, because that's really who I am. But I made it up and down the court. Slowly, but I made it.

Once I broke a sweat, I got off a couple times. Two really deliberate shot fakes got my off the bounce. I got into the lane, through a pass fake, and was heading to the hole with my left. I planted that right leg to go up, and just went no where. I got crushed by a foul, and the guy complained that he thought I was gonna jump. I told him I thought I was too. Just didn't happen. One for two from the stripe.

In my second trip out, I was determined to show off some. I threw a couple of wow passes that had the guys on my team cackling from the bench when one kid took one right off the gut. Another slow shot fake got me a little leaning banker that I hit. I got a steal in a one on one fast break defense situation, which is how I hurt myself the first time. Grabbed a couple rebounds. Dove on a loose ball at mid court.

Overall I was pretty happy with my showing.

After the game my buddy's kids came over with my sandals, and after exposing my scar, some of the guys who didn't know me were a little freaked out. I sensed a little regret from one of the guys who got on me for letting a guy snatch a rebound from behind me. But I didn't care. I was just happy to be going again. It's a 10 week 12 game season. I'm not sure how those couple Tue and Thur weeks will play. But I'm confindent I will get better as the season goes on. If the rust comes off my ball handling and I can adjust my stroke to compensate for less legs and less balance. Rework my floater / tear drop / pull up game to compensate for not being able to finish, and I actually think I can be a legit starter on this team, even though I probably won't have the legs to do it.

And the adrenaline kept me up all night. I just can't imagine the day when I stop wanting to play basketball. And when my left achilles tears this season, I guess we'll find out.
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That was emotional man I remember reading this thread a year ago.
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Man, I read this thread as being current. The return caught me off guard. Congrats!

Two questions though: 1) How old are you and 2) How painful was the initial injury?
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:35 PM   #21
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Man, I read this thread as being current. The return caught me off guard. Congrats!

Two questions though: 1) How old are you and 2) How painful was the initial injury?


I'll be 37 on March 1st god willing.

The injury was pretty excruciating. I can't get the feeling of it out of my mind. Not so much the pain, as the physical sensation of the feeling of the thing tearing, almost slowly. Kind of the way you'd tear a piece of fruit by the foot, where the the tensile strength you can just feel going slowly, then "POP!!!".

I know my first instant reaction was one of my foot just weirdly not working. It wasn't until a few seconds went by that I felt the warm rush of pain run up my body and trigger. The cold sweats and feeling like I was gonna puke was genuine. But once I got sat down, sort of mentally decided what it was, and got something to chew on, I sort of let the pain go. And it was only an hour before the the ambulance got me to the hospital, where they almost immediately hit me up with morphine. I remember waking up the next morning and thinking I might actually be alright. That's how good that morphine will do ya.

On the other hand, I did throw a blood clot during recovery which didn't help my cause at all. Being on blood thinners is not good for healing ... and that's my non-medical expert opinion.

The blood clot was one of the most excruciating things I've ever felt. I was in a walking boot, probably a month after surgery. I had been given some pretty serious pain meds, but other than the first two nights after surgery, and mostly for sleep, never touched them. All of a sudden I'm being woken by the pain in the middle of the night. I had gone back to work pretty quickly. I was on an aspirin regiment that I was honestly maintaining. And was keeping my foot up as much as I could. Apparently not enough. Just trying to do too much I suppose. On the crutches too often.

Anyway, it finally got bad enough for me to talk to the doctor, and thank god I did. He was actually kind of a prick about it. Said I shouldn't be feeling that kind of pain, that it couldn't be from anything he did, wanted me to go see my regular MD, but I pushed, and he gave me an appointment, for which he didn't show up. I wound up with the AP. My mother has 40 years as an RN, and really knows her stuff, and thankfully she was there too. The AP who was a hot young girl, said the surgery seemed fine, although a bit too swollen. It wasn't until my mother suggested the clot that the girl said maybe. They set me up for a scan as soon as I could get there, and when I did the girl was freaked out. She was an AP too, she was on her cell phone to her boss saying I was bad. There was talk of possible amputation. I spent the weekend on hardcore blood thinners, basically out of it, until finally being weaned down to something like your grandmother's cumadin.


The bad news is that I've all but been told this will happen to the left leg too eventually. My achilles are both scarred to hell from years of damage from playing. And as I've gotten older, they lose their elasticity, and when one of those tiny scars gets stretched the wrong way, when I was younger the tendon could hold up, but not anymore. But my feeling is I can try to squeeze as much more basketball as I can out of my body now, probably blowing it out in the process, or I can stop playing, which I don't want to do yet, and blow it out 10 years from now trying to get off the toilet or some shit. The repaired one is apparently stronger than ever, so it's not going to go anywhere. It just lacks the original flexibility. Any issues I have with that are related to how much I need to compensate for it for my own discomfort, which is something I've always been pretty good at.

I do also worry about my knees, which have also had multiple orthoscopic surgeries done, in regard to them taking on more stress to compensate for how weak my calf is at this point. But whatever. As long as I'm playing even just a little.
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Did you gain weight with less activity? How were you cardio wise after you played again recently?
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Jesus Christ, I didn't notice the bump and thought you ripped your achilles again.

Glad you made it back.
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Jesus, your description of an Achilles tear made me want to puke.

Glad to hear you are doing well. I don't know whether to describe your love for the game as admirable or insane but it is certainly extraordinary.
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Did you gain weight with less activity? How were you cardio wise after you played again recently?

I've gone through this before with people and been told I'm a fatso, which really doesn't bother me much at 37.
In HS I played at about 190 lbs, and I'm just about 6' tall. I had, and still have really big thighs and and a big ass. But I was in rediculously good shape. Went two years without losing a sprint in a practice. Ran in the four by 100. Played safety on the football team. No one would've described me as heavy, but then again no one would've ever guessed I weighed more than 170 lbs.
I played in college as a walk on but spent a year as a manager, and the amount of physical work I put in wasn't as drastic. I got up to 210 or so.

I've sat most of my adult life at around 235. On the day of the injury I had been working out and playing pretty regularly and had gotten to 222 lbs. I actually weighed myself that night before leaving work. After the injury I ballooned up to as high as 260. I started bike riding a bit around the new year, and changed my diet a bit (I've drastically reduced my white carb intake, although not eliminated it). I'm back to about 235 now.

I have a bit of a unique cardio situation. I was born with one lung. So I've always gotten winded sort of quick, but my second wind is unusually strong. My doctor says it's a matter of my one lung stretching out giving me these big deep breaths. I don't know if that's truely the reason, but it's always been the case. I'm certainly not going to say I was gonna be running circles around people, but I really limited what I did for the sake of my legs, and can't for sure say how good or bad it would've been. My second half run of 7-8 minutes did conclude with some defensive basket hanging.
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I've gone through this before with people and been told I'm a fatso, which really doesn't bother me much at 37.
In HS I played at about 190 lbs, and I'm just about 6' tall. I had, and still have really big thighs and and a big ass. But I was in rediculously good shape. Went two years without losing a sprint in a practice. Ran in the four by 100. Played safety on the football team. No one would've described me as heavy, but then again no one would've ever guessed I weighed more than 170 lbs.
I played in college as a walk on but spent a year as a manager, and the amount of physical work I put in wasn't as drastic. I got up to 210 or so.

I've sat most of my adult life at around 235. On the day of the injury I had been working out and playing pretty regularly and had gotten to 222 lbs. I actually weighed myself that night before leaving work. After the injury I ballooned up to as high as 260. I started bike riding a bit around the new year, and changed my diet a bit (I've drastically reduced my white carb intake, although not eliminated it). I'm back to about 235 now.

I have a bit of a unique cardio situation. I was born with one lung. So I've always gotten winded sort of quick, but my second wind is unusually strong. My doctor says it's a matter of my one lung stretching out giving me these big deep breaths. I don't know if that's truely the reason, but it's always been the case. I'm certainly not going to say I was gonna be running circles around people, but I really limited what I did for the sake of my legs, and can't for sure say how good or bad it would've been. My second half run of 7-8 minutes did conclude with some defensive basket hanging.

How do you play ball with one lung? I feel ashamed of my cardio now, a couple trips up and down the floor and I'm bent over catching my breath so I hang back and just D up. Props man.
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How do you play ball with one lung? I feel ashamed of my cardio now, a couple trips up and down the floor and I'm bent over catching my breath so I hang back and just D up. Props man.


I've been asked that many times. But I can't really tell you the difference because it's all I've known. Like I said, I've always seemed to get winded quickly, but then had an abnormally strong second wind. Who knows.
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