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Old 06-06-2013, 02:02 AM   #16
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As long as we would have Kobe and Dwight, I seriously doubt we would ever have cap space anyway.....if we can get good players for an expirer we had better take it.

In fact, If you remove both Dwight and Pau from last year's we would still have been over the cap.

I get that but Kobe's next contract won't be a max one. I really don't think he'll even get what Nash did. Nash signed before the new CBA and it was too much money.... I would hope Kobe would take a little less than that based on that. Besides, I don't think he's going to be taking the highest offer at that point. It'll either be a reasonable one from the Lakers or retirement. That should leave enough room for another really good player.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:58 AM   #17
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Default Re: Possible significant increase in salary cap and tax threshold?

To be honest I don't think the higher threshold due to revenue increase would help those, that are repeat offenders, in saving money from the luxury tax.

Would the IRS let you not pay the tax you owe the past years because they lowered your taxes? I don't think so especially in this instance.

It's almost like they are rewarding the cap offenders because revenue is up. No way.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:40 AM   #18
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I get that but Kobe's next contract won't be a max one. I really don't think he'll even get what Nash did. Nash signed before the new CBA and it was too much money.... I would hope Kobe would take a little less than that based on that. Besides, I don't think he's going to be taking the highest offer at that point. It'll either be a reasonable one from the Lakers or retirement. That should leave enough room for another really good player.

Hold on......you REALLY don't think "KOBE BRYANT" will get as much as 9 million per year for 4 years? That is what Nash got.

Add: The sheer marketing impact of Kobe alone, lets say if he went to another team....in jersey sales, ticket sales, television rights etc.....that alone warrants a salary higher than $9 million, i'll leave it at that number for argument sake.

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Old 06-06-2013, 12:00 PM   #19
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Hold on......you REALLY don't think "KOBE BRYANT" will get as much as 9 million per year for 4 years? That is what Nash got.

I don't think Kobe will sign a 4 year deal. But I could see him signing for a year or two at 9 or 10 million per season. If he really wants to win another championship that's what he's going to have to do. I think we can both agree that Nash is overpaid too. Plus that deal was on the old CBA like I mentioned before. Contracts like that aren't going to be able to set an exact precedent. Ray Allen is only making 3 million per season. Of course he was expected to come off the bench too. While Kobe won't sign a contract like that, I still expect that it'll be a significant pay cut. You can't give a guy at his age a max contract, even if it's for a season.
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I don't think Kobe will sign a 4 year deal. But I could see him signing for a year or two at 9 or 10 million per season. If he really wants to win another championship that's what he's going to have to do. I think we can both agree that Nash is overpaid too. Plus that deal was on the old CBA like I mentioned before. Contracts like that aren't going to be able to set an exact precedent. Ray Allen is only making 3 million per season. Of course he was expected to come off the bench too. While Kobe won't sign a contract like that, I still expect that it'll be a significant pay cut. You can't give a guy at his age a max contract, even if it's for a season.

No, definitely not a MAX contract, but not an insulting one. Kobe is NOT Steve Nash, NOT Ray Allen, so I don't get why they would be used as a comparison. I don't see Kobe averaging less than 18ppg over the next 3 years for sure.

Tim Duncan, on his 39th birthday will still be making about 10.5 million.
Ask the Spurs how happy they are with Tim Duncan....lol.

4 years.....don't forget to factor in Kobe desperately wanting that 6th ring, to take a shot at the all time scoring record or #2........among other factors.

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Old 06-06-2013, 12:22 PM   #21
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No, definitely not a MAX contract, but not an insulting one. Kobe is NOT Steve Nash, NOT Ray Allen, so I don't get why they would be used as a comparison. I don't see Kobe averaging less than 18ppg over the next 3 years for sure.

Tim Duncan, on his 39th birthday will still be making about 10.5 million.
Ask the Spurs how happy they are with Tim Duncan....lol.

4 years.....don't forget to factor in Kobe desperately wanting that 6th ring, to take a shot at the all time scoring record or #2........among other factors.

Again, an old CBA contract. But like I said 9 to 10 million does sound about right. It really depends on how much he wants another ring.
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Again, an old CBA contract. But like I said 9 to 10 million does sound about right. It really depends on how much he wants another ring.

Yes, I agree on 10 million but at first you said he would get less than the 9 million Nash got.....no way....lol. I can easily see him playing for 4 more years.
Kobe has said that he is desperate to get that 6th ring......and knowing Kobe, after getting #6, if there is any prayer that he can get #7 he is not going to just walk away from it.
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Kobe's resume and his caliber (even at this age) will not command less than 12-15$ million per year.
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Kobe's resume and his caliber (even at this age) will not command less than 12-15$ million per year.

He won't get another ring if he resigns for that kind of money. Like I said, it depends on how much he really wants to try to get another one.
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He won't get another ring if he resigns for that kind of money. Like I said, it depends on how much he really wants to try to get another one.

I agree, $12-15million would seriously hurt his chances to get another ring.
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Kobe's resume and his caliber (even at this age) will not command less than 12-15$ million per year.

Not with the new cba. Top 3-5 superstars will barely get to 25 mill a year. A few others in ages 20s to early 30s will get past 20 mill a year. A 38yr old Kobe won't reach $15 mill. 10 is max he should expect tbh..
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I agree, $12-15million would seriously hurt his chances to get another ring.

I agree as well.

The question is, does he care? Will he pull a Tim Duncan or not?
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I agree as well.

The question is, does he care? Will he pull a Tim Duncan or not?

That's pretty much what I was trying to get at. Plus I threw in the fact that we now have a new CBA that makes it much harder for teams to go over the cap so ideally he would need to take even less......
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That's pretty much what I was trying to get at. Plus I threw in the fact that we now have a new CBA that makes it much harder for teams to go over the cap so ideally he would need to take even less......

I guess if he had to sacrifice, I would agree with everyone else that 9 million per year is the perfect contract for Kobe
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