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Old 05-20-2013, 06:35 AM   #31
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Default Re: So what moves can be made?

So you guys have no idea what you'd do?
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:06 AM   #32
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I'm going to look at the list of FA again today and post a little later. Turns out I actually have work to do at work (The nerve of them right? lol )

Our offseason can get off to a good start by having a good draft. Don't be lazy Grunwald and pick an overseas guy who may or may not show up. This year is considered a fairly weak draft, but it's always been my opinion that "weak drafts" usually benefit the teams that pick later on.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:24 AM   #33
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knickscity you just don't get it. I didn't say I would trade Tyson for Robin Lopez straight up.

I said I would SIGN Robin Lopez and then trade Tyson for another player (let's say it's Eric Gordon as you wish )
Then we would have a bum in Robin Lopez and Eric Gordon instead just a bum center in Tyson

Robin Lopez isn't better than Tyson but he's not much worse either.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:50 AM   #34
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I suggest everyone check this out:

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicks...#axzz2TqNlGDlH

Basically it's a poll and you decide who goes and who stays.

RESULTS SO FAR (percentages of how many people voted for them to stay):

Iman Shumpert - 93%
Chris Copeland - 89%
Carmelo Anthony - 87%
Pablo Prigioni - 82%
Tyson Chandler - 74%
Glen Grunwald - 74%
Raymond Felton - 73%
Mike Woodson - 73%
Kenyon Martin - 67%
Steve Novak - 50%
J.R.Smith - 45%
Amare Stoudemire - 29%
Earl Barron - 21%
Jason Kidd - 17%
James White - 15%
Quentin Richardson - 12%
Marcus Camby - 10%
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:52 AM   #35
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Default Re: So what moves can be made?

The only thing that surprises me is Chris Copeland. But this fan base gets a big WTF if Melo isnt number 1. Really there are only 10 players at most in the league that are good enough to be considered arguably the cornerstone of a franchise. And I think only 1 is available.

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I suggest everyone check this out:

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicks...#axzz2TqNlGDlH

Basically it's a poll and you decide who goes and who stays.

RESULTS SO FAR (percentages of how many people voted for them to stay):

Iman Shumpert - 93%
Chris Copeland - 89%
Carmelo Anthony - 87%
Pablo Prigioni - 82%
Tyson Chandler - 74%
Glen Grunwald - 74%
Raymond Felton - 73%
Mike Woodson - 73%
Kenyon Martin - 67%
Steve Novak - 50%
J.R.Smith - 45%
Amare Stoudemire - 29%
Earl Barron - 21%
Jason Kidd - 17%
James White - 15%
Quentin Richardson - 12%
Marcus Camby - 10%

You know why historically the Knicks have done that was because of too many guaranteed contracts on the team. I dont agree with it though.

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I'm going to look at the list of FA again today and post a little later. Turns out I actually have work to do at work (The nerve of them right? lol )

Our offseason can get off to a good start by having a good draft. Don't be lazy Grunwald and pick an overseas guy who may or may not show up. This year is considered a fairly weak draft, but it's always been my opinion that "weak drafts" usually benefit the teams that pick later on.

I'm surprised no one is feeding into the CP3 idea....
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:01 PM   #36
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Unacceptable!

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The Knicks are expected to re-sign Chris Smith before training camp next season.
Chris, J.R.'s brother, was signed by the Knicks before training camp, but a knee injury derailed his season before it ever got started. It's not clear if any other team is interested in J.R.'s brother, but the Knicks appear to be lining up a "package deal" with Chris and J.R. if the latter re-signs.
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His brother sucked even in the Summer league. I don't expect he'll be any good.

Does LeBron have a brother ? Maybe we can sign him and hope LeBron will come here to play with his little bro
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:25 PM   #38
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Unacceptable!
This is a clear package deal. If it means we get JR for the low...so be it. As bad as JR was...at the price point he was this year...he's still a bargain.
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:00 PM   #39
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This is a clear package deal. If it means we get JR for the low...so be it. As bad as JR was...at the price point he was this year...he's still a bargain.
This team doesnt have the luxury to waste a roster spot. He isnt coming back for 2.9 mill. Do I think he should make at minimum 5 hey so be it. Sorry cant waste the roster spot on Chris. No team would make that kind of promise. Let the guy go back to China.
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:02 PM   #40
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This team doesnt have the luxury to waste a roster spot. He isnt coming back for 2.9 mill. Do I think he should make at minimum 5 hey so be it. Sorry cant waste the roster spot on Chris. No team would make that kind of promise. Let the guy go back to China.
So now we care about the 15th man?

The spot is normally inactive, what is the problem?
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:04 PM   #41
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I just read that JR left money on the table and agreed to a 4 year deal for just over 5 mill.
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:15 PM   #42
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I just read that JR left money on the table and agreed to a 4 year deal for just over 5 mill.
i think this deal is a "gentlemens" deal.

It was well known the Clippers were prepared to offer more, imo he has taken less.

But letting him walk is not a good idea for the Knicks who have limited resources.

That money saved can't be used anywhere as it's an exception, and the Knicks would be telling CAA that the guy who took less ...screw him.

Good luck free agent hunting with vets mins and an mle on that bad note.

The Knicks have to set the bar that if talented guys are willing to take a little less today, we will pay you fairly tomorrow.

JR's value extends past his production on the court.

i assure you, someone, most likely a young player, will sign here for a smaller amount this summer with the same hopes of JR Smith.
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:32 PM   #43
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Does anyone have concerns about players wanting to play with Melo? Based on the ISO heavy play calling and possibly not getting touches especially if JR is back?
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:53 PM   #44
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Does anyone have concerns about players wanting to play with Melo? Based on the ISO heavy play calling and possibly not getting touches especially if JR is back?
No, but that said player will have to be content with taking 12 shots or less.

The iso thing to me really is overplayed.

My only concern with Melo is when takes more shots than the entire starting lineup, no the isos.

Shump shoots quite a bit at times, felton does as well, JR obviously.
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:53 PM   #45
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So here's some guys I wouldn't mind taking a look at. Now there are some guys who's options I fully expect to be picked and and other's I think that we realistically don't have a shot at like Manu Ginoboli.

So we all know Chris Paul, Josh Smith, Andre Iguodala, Al Jefferson and Dwight Howard will be FA. I wouldn't mind either player. We'd obviously have to purge one of our 3 largest contracts, which I don't see happening. Below are some guys I'd be interested in. The guys in green are guys who might require some maneuvering to acquire. The guys underlined are players I really think would fit in seemlessly.

Randy Foye
Martell Webster
Dorrell Wright
Nick Young
Jarrett Jack
Mo Williams
OJ Mayo
Kevin Martin
Tyreke Evans
Paul Millsap
Jeff Teague

Marco Bellinelli
Nate Robinson
Ivan Johnson
Alan Anderson
Jerryd Bayless
Chase Budinger
Samuel Dalembert
Andray Blatche
CJ Watson
AJ Price
Cartier Martin
Chris Copeland
Sebastian Telfair
Earl Clark
Wesley Johnson
Chauncey Billups
Matt Barnes
Corey Brewer
Wayne Ellington
Elton Brand
Jannero Pargo
Jermaine O'Neal
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