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Old 05-22-2013, 12:52 PM   #61
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His preference for an easy coaching job should have no impact on roster decisions


This season the best gm in the game is on the block. Toronto and Denver are bidding on ujuri. Make it over and take him. Whoever put together this seasons team can surely take a backseat to someone who is willing to think and attempt to build a winner

The problem is it does impact roster decisions that's why Kidd, Camby, Sheed, Prigs, Kurt, Copeland were on the roster in the first place. Expected to be key rotational players.

Now you may be unaware of this but no one wants the executive job in NY because they have no autonomy and there are too many voices in every decision made with in the organization. So you make a valid point about Masai Ujiri no one of consequence will ever come here especially after the Donnie Walsh fiasco.
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JR has a drug problem, apparently his dealer lives in Harlem
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New York Knicks player and NBA 's 6th man of the year may have bigger problems than his recent struggles on the court. And the New York Knicks season came to an early end in Indiana. Failing to reach the Conference Finals or even coming close to winning the Title, the Knicks will have a tough offseason. A lot of things went wrong during the playoffs, some players played poorly, the coaching was far from perfect and, at the end of the day, Melo couldn't win it all by himself. And as the offseason is now ahead, a lot of questions are asked ... but Gotham will also have to deal with a controversy. During the playoffs, it has already been reported that New York Knicks guard J.R. Smith was spotted in night clubs before game days, he even drew public criticism of worldwide music star Rihanna (more about Rihanna later in the article), making everyone wonder about Smith's motivation concerning the NBA Playoffs.

Some big answers are now surfacing as sources claimed to IBN Sports Wrap that J.R. Smith has developed a huge cocaine habit. Sources also indicated that Smith was heavily using drugs during the Playoffs and at one point became quite ill thanks to his brand new "friend". Another source confirmed to IBN Sports Wrap that Smith's dealer currently lives in Harlem. That source also told us that JR Smith purchases approximately $1,500 worth of cocaine every 2/3 days when he is in town as well as $1,500 worth of marijuana every week. Despite not being legal, marijuana isn't the biggest concern in this situation as a coke habit may lead to bigger problems in the future for this seasons 6th man of the year. After being contacted by IBN Sports Wrap last night, the New York Knicks front office didn't want to comment about the situation. IBN Sports Wrap also asked Rihanna's camp for a response to the claims indicating that JR Smith was on drugs during the playoffs, here is their statement : "Rihanna thought JR seemed to be on something not just drunk, he was slurring his words and acting real slow.. that was turn-off especially having dealt with those mood changes in a prior relationship"

After being one of the biggest bust of the Knicks post-season, JR Smith's performance on the court may only be the tip of the iceberg ? Might also be why he wants his contract situation wrapped up quickly.
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JR has a drug problem, apparently his dealer lives in Harlem
http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?articleID=760
New York Knicks player and NBA 's 6th man of the year may have bigger problems than his recent struggles on the court. And the New York Knicks season came to an early end in Indiana. Failing to reach the Conference Finals or even coming close to winning the Title, the Knicks will have a tough offseason. A lot of things went wrong during the playoffs, some players played poorly, the coaching was far from perfect and, at the end of the day, Melo couldn't win it all by himself. And as the offseason is now ahead, a lot of questions are asked ... but Gotham will also have to deal with a controversy. During the playoffs, it has already been reported that New York Knicks guard J.R. Smith was spotted in night clubs before game days, he even drew public criticism of worldwide music star Rihanna (more about Rihanna later in the article), making everyone wonder about Smith's motivation concerning the NBA Playoffs.

Some big answers are now surfacing as sources claimed to IBN Sports Wrap that J.R. Smith has developed a huge cocaine habit. Sources also indicated that Smith was heavily using drugs during the Playoffs and at one point became quite ill thanks to his brand new "friend". Another source confirmed to IBN Sports Wrap that Smith's dealer currently lives in Harlem. That source also told us that JR Smith purchases approximately $1,500 worth of cocaine every 2/3 days when he is in town as well as $1,500 worth of marijuana every week. Despite not being legal, marijuana isn't the biggest concern in this situation as a coke habit may lead to bigger problems in the future for this seasons 6th man of the year. After being contacted by IBN Sports Wrap last night, the New York Knicks front office didn't want to comment about the situation. IBN Sports Wrap also asked Rihanna's camp for a response to the claims indicating that JR Smith was on drugs during the playoffs, here is their statement : "Rihanna thought JR seemed to be on something not just drunk, he was slurring his words and acting real slow.. that was turn-off especially having dealt with those mood changes in a prior relationship"

After being one of the biggest bust of the Knicks post-season, JR Smith's performance on the court may only be the tip of the iceberg ? Might also be why he wants his contract situation wrapped up quickly.
Ask Shump if this is true, he was at the party as well.



this the pic at the Game 2 presser....



I call bull, the dude reported this is MR Cee a known tranny hooker lover.
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I call bull, the dude reported this is MR Cee a known tranny hooker lover.
wut? I dont understand this part

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It’s risky business, but Knicks general manager Glen Grunwald said Tuesday the major core of the roster will be back next season as the franchise banks on Amar’e Stoudemire’s knees and J.R. Smith’s head healing.

Grunwald confirmed the Knicks are unable to do a sign-and-trade for free agents Chris Paul or Dwight Howard because of new collective bargaining agreement rules forbidding luxury taxpayers from partaking. They only have the $3.1 million mini-midlevel exception, plus the 24th overall pick in June’s draft.

That $3.1 million exception could partially be used to keep their own free agents, Chris Copeland and Pablo Prigioni. The Knicks are permitted to deal Copeland or Prigioni in a sign-and-trade, however, but can only get back a trade exception, draft pick or cash. The Knicks can then use the trade exception, worth say, $3.2 million, to acquire another player under contract at that dollar amount.

So there’s not a whole lot of big stuff for Grunwald to do other than pray Stoudemire and Smith come back repaired. And the window is closing fast.

“We’re focused on now,’’ Grunwald said. “We’re trying to get to a championship as soon as possible. That’s where our strategy is right now.’’

Smith will opt out of his contract and become a free agent July 1 and the Knicks likely will re-sign him under the early-Bird rights rule for a contract starting at $5.4 million. Smith became the goat of the playoffs, losing his shot and reputation amid Rihanna’s allegations his on-court troubles were due to being “hung over.’’

“It’s best to maintain the continuity if there’s a reason you think you can get better,’’ Grunwald said in a state-of-the-Knicks press conference at the team’s Westchester County practice facility. “I think we can get better. I think we can play better than we did in the playoffs. That’s not to say we won’t explore all our alternatives. That’s my job.

“I’m disappointed in the season but I’m not discouraged about this team. I’m very excited about the future. Obviously we’ve got some work to do. We’re not where we want to be.’’

The Knicks’ championship dreams ended in the second round versus the Pacers, and a major roster upgrade is nearly impossible.

“We can be creative,’’ Grunwald said, referring to the signing and trading of the Knicks’ own free agents. “We’ve got ideas what we can do. We have to be aggressive, not only in players but in terms of existing players getting better.’’

Grunwald said he feels Carmelo Anthony can improve — he declined to say how — but mentioned the major key is Stoudemire, the $100 million man, staying healthy all season and returning to near All-Star form. Coach Mike Woodson wouldn’t rule out starting the six-time All-Star next season and shifting Anthony to small forward.
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As Glen Grunwald and the #Knicks consider JR Smith's future, we consider the alternatives. More:
In these situations, especially with the restrictions of a salary cap system, you must sete a price for the player. In this case, we'll put Smith at the market value for a Sixth Man of the Year winner based on past winners and set the cost at $5 million per year.

His positives are scoring (18 ppg), of course, along with an understated ability to be a capable defender. His negatives are inconsistency in both effort and focus, which almost balance the scale.

So is he worth the cost and committment (likely a 4-year deal)?

That all depends on the alternatives. Can you replace him? If so, with whom?

With no cap room to spend and only a taxpayer's mid-level exception ($3 million) to offer free agents, the choices are limited. But there are choices to consider if you decide to let Smith walk:

1. Replace him in the draft: The Knicks have the 24th overall pick ($963,600 in 2013-14). A few wing prospects include Tim Hardaway Jr., Glen Rice and Allen Crabbe. None are as good as Smith now, of course, but it would certainly save a lot of money.

2. Replace him in free agency: Will JJ Redick or Kyle Korver get $5M-$6M per year deals again or will their middle class status feel the hit under the new CBA rules? What about Mo Williams at this stage of his career? you can't ignore here, of course, is that you can re-sign Smith AND still use the MLE, which means filling two spots instead of one.

3. Trade for a shooting guard. There's not much to consider, however. This route also means you have to give up a player or two, which negatively impacts your roster (unless it's an all-star caliber player, of course). Keep in mind, the Knicks CAN NOT execute a sign-and-trade if they are $4M over the luxury tax threshold. Right now they estimate to be right at it, but we won't know for sure until the NBA releases the salary cap numbers for 2013-14.

4. Replace him internally: Iman Shumpert's emergence late in the season suggests he's back on the rise. The Knicks need to get more out of Steve Novak ($3.8M next season). Sometimes scoring doesn't have to come from one guy, but multiple players. Still, it is valuable to have at least one player you can rely on to give you double-figures off the bench each night. Chris Copeland has proven he can do that. However, he is an unrestricted free agent and the Knicks can only re-sign him with a veteran's minimum or their MLE.

With these four alternatives to re-signing Smith to consider, which, if any, makes the most sense to you?

if some other team wants him, id say have a great year, but we shudnt outbid ourselves for jr, 4 if not 5 mill shud do it. i hope cope gets paid, he deserves it
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only way any rookie is gonna see time is if we have major injury
Shump saw time immediately and never lost his starting spot in the lineup.

if the rook is good, he'll play.
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I keep hearing this Kevin Love to the Knicks trade. I know it's just a rumor but it's been floating around all over.

Kevin Love, Alexi Shved and Derrick Williams

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Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert and Steve Novak
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Shump saw time immediately and never lost his starting spot in the lineup.

if the rook is good, he'll play.
That was D'Antoni actually.

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I keep hearing this Kevin Love to the Knicks trade. I know it's just a rumor but it's been floating around all over.

Kevin Love, Alexi Shved and Derrick Williams

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Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert and Steve Novak
Never going to get Love and Derrick. And I doubt they give up Shved. Probably have a better chance of getting JJ.
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if some other team wants him, id say have a great year, but we shudnt outbid ourselves for jr, 4 if not 5 mill shud do it. i hope cope gets paid, he deserves it

You can't let JR walk for $5 Million if you're willing to go to $4 Million.

He is no Jeremy Lin, there is an actual track record that if JR leaves you know he's going to be his same old self and put up big numbers compared to his value. JR should've been overpaid 4-5 years ago and now be settling for the MLE but his antics are why he's such a bargain being paid at his market value.

Also does anyone know what our MLE is this year?

$5 Million or $3 Million?
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Also not sure what the feeling is on here, but I'd love Stephen Jackson on this team for the vet minimum of course. He replaces Cope but gets a larger role on the squad due to his versatility.



Captain Jack is not afraid of hitting the clutch 3 and plays good defense at the 3/4 at his age.

As long as Woodson lets him know what his role is then I could see him actually playing hard, being a slight distraction off the floor with his rap career, but helping K-Mart be our enforcers. Im talking real enforcers. I think both are from down there in Texas and would be out there collecting bodies to make sure we don't get outphysical-ed like against Indy.
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I was speaking specifically of Woodson, Rameek.
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I wouldn't mind signing Steven Jackson.
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Shump saw time immediately and never lost his starting spot in the lineup.

if the rook is good, he'll play.
we didnt have alot of vets at the time, woodson is a vet guy, hes gonna beat the dead horse until it comes back to life
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I keep hearing this Kevin Love to the Knicks trade. I know it's just a rumor but it's been floating around all over.

Kevin Love, Alexi Shved and Derrick Williams

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Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert and Steve Novak
id hate to lose shump, but wed be getting klove, a rebounding beast, and 2 good players with potential

though we are shiping out our only 2 defensive players

if u think about it, klove compliments melo the best, he can hit the 3 (Which he likes to) but he also runs back to the middle to get rebounds

hypothetically, if we can land that trade, wud the lakers take amare for gasol?

klove
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shved? (convert him to sg, or find a guard in the draft)
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I have this eerie feeling we are going to re-sign Jared Jeffries. That's a move that's right up the Knicks alley.

My dad came up with an interesting potential trade today. Al Jefferson and Randy Foye are free agents. Why not do a Jefferson and Foye for Chandler, Novak and Kidd trade? Sign a decent Center who can play some defense like Nazir Mohamed, Brandon Wright or Samuel Dalembert. Draft a big man like Gorgui Dieng. All hypothetcial of course.
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