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Old 07-29-2014, 11:10 AM   #766
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DWill has been hurt for three years. He has three years at max money, the large max. You can't trade for him. He just came off surgery on both ankles.
I understand all that. But even playing on two bad ankles he was 14/6 (on a stacked "usage" team) with solid percentages.

Unless the ankle surgeries made him worse (they certainly made him more risky), he's easily the best guard on the team, and easily the best player Melo has had alongside him since he came to NY. Well, except for Amare for like... two months?

Basically.. Williams' floor is last season. 14/6 on 45/37/80. The Knicks cap situation makes surrounding Melo with any semblance of talent either very difficult (see: Impossible) or risky (see: Williams).

I think it's a risk worth taking. No other way, that I can see, to be a championship contender during Melo's remaining prime.
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Old 08-05-2014, 02:05 PM   #767
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If the love trade to Cleveland is really done it means 2 things to the Knicks

1- good for Phil for driving the price up. Cleveland is the competition.

2- still an incomplete team with all assets remaining.



A starting big still needs to be acquainted. And a backup pf prob too


A 2nd guard still. I think it could be shumpert, if not it has to be found
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:24 PM   #768
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If the love trade to Cleveland is really done it means 2 things to the Knicks

1- good for Phil for driving the price up. Cleveland is the competition.

2- still an incomplete team with all assets remaining.



A starting big still needs to be acquainted. And a backup pf prob too


A 2nd guard still. I think it could be shumpert, if not it has to be found
How exactly did Phil help drive up the price? Wiggins being in the deal was Minny's deman from day 1.

the Knicks offer...if it's really true as writers from minny side claim it is not, wasnt even a convo starter.
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Old 08-06-2014, 12:19 AM   #769
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Default Re: So what moves can be made?

looks like summer of 2015 will be a bust for us with main targets beign taken off the board or wanting to reup with their current team, and we might end up overpaying for 2nd or 3rd tier players to just stay with is or reup with amare again
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Old 08-06-2014, 10:26 AM   #770
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looks like summer of 2015 will be a bust for us with main targets beign taken off the board or wanting to reup with their current team, and we might end up overpaying for 2nd or 3rd tier players to just stay with is or reup with amare again
I disagree. It's not the same administration. It is possible they re-up Stat though.
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Old 08-06-2014, 12:53 PM   #771
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Nothing wrong with resigning Stat, so long as it's a value deal and not a "Thanks for what you did in Phoenix" deal. Something to the tune of 6-8m a year, depending on how this season goes.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:35 PM   #772
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looks like summer of 2015 will be a bust for us with main targets beign taken off the board or wanting to reup with their current team, and we might end up overpaying for 2nd or 3rd tier players to just stay with is or reup with amare again
That's why it has to be a trade.


Trading around w an 80-90 million dollar payroll is so much safer than gambling on a fa and being stuck w a 60 million dollar payroll.


Knicks are a key piece or two away right now. But let's just wait till 16 when durant will walk on over for free. And if he doesn't maybe Westbrook will in 17 right?


When is the last time a fa took less money then he could have gotten so that he comes to ny for straight capspace? Seems so bizzare that anyone would want their team to take that gamble over trying to win
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No one is adverse to trading for pieces but you want the Knicks to pick up garbage that doesnt make the team better (terrible contracts with nothing that makes them contenders). So the bottom line is smart intelligence should supersede desperation stupidity! Try jumping on the left instead of living on the right.

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That's why it has to be a trade.


Trading around w an 80-90 million dollar payroll is so much safer than gambling on a fa and being stuck w a 60 million dollar payroll.


Knicks are a key piece or two away right now. But let's just wait till 16 when durant will walk on over for free. And if he doesn't maybe Westbrook will in 17 right?


When is the last time a fa took less money then he could have gotten so that he comes to ny for straight capspace? Seems so bizzare that anyone would want their team to take that gamble over trying to win
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Smart intelligence and come to the left? There's some words that don't mix. Your writing and opinions show to be very liberal. "In theory" it all makes sense but then there's that one thing that always comes around to bite you when you think "in theory". It's that one dirty word called reality
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Larry sanders @11 a year is not a bad contract. Knicks could not find a fa on the open market that good for that price
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Larry sanders @11 a year is not a bad contract. Knicks could not find a fa on the open market that good for that price
Sorry no nut cases need apply. We already have one of those on this team.
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Old 08-13-2014, 06:01 PM   #777
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Larry sanders @11 a year is not a bad contract. Knicks could not find a fa on the open market that good for that price
is he done with his drug rehab?


From advocating weed, to his dope suspension to arguing with teammates to being flat out awful ON the court this past year, his deal certainly is bad.

I cant recall where i read it but the Bucks actually were 9 points worse when he was on the court.

And thats on top of his deal lasting all the way to 2018.

Phil wont waste his time with that.
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