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Old 06-26-2013, 10:43 PM   #136
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Bennett has already guaranteed he's going top 6 on Twitter. If he was gonna get drafted by another team, like the Bobcats, he would've said he's going in the top 4. I just think that if Bennett's still on the board, the Pels will see he's too good to pass up and move on with Vasquez as their PG.

He has no clue where he's going. He may know teams that like him and he may think he knows where he's going, but he has no clue what's going to happen. Neither do the teams. Even if he was given a promise, that doesn't guarantee anything.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:50 PM   #137
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Originally Posted by Andrew Wiggins
nah kid, you're just another pudgy aussie who failed at rules football and thought he was playing netball and realized it was called basketball. now go make me a sandwich betty

way off the mark, and reported for racism.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:59 PM   #138
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way off the mark, and reported for racism.

i'll attribute your lack of comprehension to the crappy aussie education system.

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Old 06-26-2013, 11:51 PM   #139
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Why would the Pels draft Bennett with Burke still on the board? Power Forward is our deepest position and Bennett is a power forward.

Anthony Davis and Bennett together could be ridiculous, you better pray he drops
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:13 AM   #140
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Originally Posted by Andrew Wiggins
i'll attribute your lack of comprehension to the crappy aussie education system.

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Old 06-27-2013, 04:55 AM   #141
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I'm kind of surprised Brandon Paul is predicted to go undrafted... Has all the physical tools, looks to be a solid defender, and his only problem is decision making and shot selection. Something that can be easily fixed with some good coaching...

Anyone care to elaborate more on him, since whenever I've watched him, those are the only flaws I could really pick up. He seems NBA ready to me.
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:11 AM   #142
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Wonder what OKC will do with all their picks.
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I think they'll go with Gorgui Dieng with their first pick instead of Adams. He's more NBA ready and would fit better with their team.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:46 AM   #144
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Can anyone post Chad Ford's mock 7.0?
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Alex Len will be no1.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:19 PM   #146
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If they get drafted by the Cavs...

Len will average 16-7 including some sort of injury during the middle of the season.

Noel will average 10-10-3 even with him debuting later in the season.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:43 PM   #147
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Technically draft day is tomorrow for me Only 7 hours...
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:12 PM   #148
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Dennis Schroeder also has no interest in being "stashed" overseas. That's why the Celtics probably don't take him at 16.

That's why we should take him! We're a rebuilding team and he can get some playing time over here. Please please please let him fall to us
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:34 PM   #149
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Got this off forum...

Happy draft day. This year I think the NBA has something really crazy in store for all of us.

In the 11 years I've been doing this, this is the most unpredictable draft I've ever seen.

Like every year, as of midnight a number of teams reported they still were debating between three or four prospects on their board. Agents and players are wringing their hands right now. No one knows who's going where.

So the draft should be fun. And the mock draft? It's hard to pinpoint who teams will take when they haven't decided yet, but we're going to try. And then try again a little later in the day. And they try again right before the draft.

In other words, check back often during the day for versions 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 as we continue to collect information on who will go where.

After talking to numerous NBA team sources, here's our best stab at how the draft will play out Thursday night.

NBA Draft Machine | Ford's Top 100 | Second Round
1Nerlens NoelCleveland Cavaliers
COLLEGE: KentuckyAGE: 19HT: 7-0WT: 219POS: C
Analysis: Noel has been my top pick in every mock from 1.0 to 7.0. The Cavs, however, have yet to tip their hand. Various theories about Cleveland's attachment to Noel, Alex Len, Anthony Bennett, Ben McLemore, Otto Porter and Victor Oladipo abound.

Here's what I know as of midnight Wednesday evening.

The Cavs' top option is to trade the No. 1 overall pick for a combination of a veteran plus a 2014 first-round pick. If they can pull that off, they'll move the pick. If they can't, they'll keep attempting to move whoever they draft until all their options have been exercised.

And if they keep the pick? General manager Chris Grant has been a Nerlens Noel guy all year. Other people in the front office are pushing for Len. I even heard, somewhat convincingly, that owner Dan Gilbert loves Oladipo!

With a split front office, the final decision comes to Grant. I think he's a Noel guy but we'll all find out whether I'm reading the tea leaves correctly around 7:35 p.m.

2Victor OladipoOrlando Magic
COLLEGE: IndianaAGE: 21HT: 6-4WT: 213POS: SG

Analysis: I continue to hear that if the Cavs pass on Noel, the Magic are leaning strongly toward selecting Noel with the No. 2 pick in the draft.

If Noel is off the board? Things get a little tougher. Some favor Oladipo. Others McLemore. While McLemore is a stronger offensive player, Oladipo's defense and his crazy motor hold a strong appeal for the Magic. Culture matters in Orlando and I think Oladipo trumps McLemore by an edge.

3Otto PorterWashington Wizards
COLLEGE: GeorgetownAGE: 20HT: 6-9WT: 198POS: SF
Analysis: The constant that was Otto Porter has become less constant as several reports claim the Wizards now favor Anthony Bennett. I've heard both from inside the Wizards. Clearly, like most front offices in the league right now, there are two different factions. I continue to hear that Porter is the safer pick and better fits the team's culture and they will lean that way.


4Ben McLemoreCharlotte Bobcats
COLLEGE: KansasAGE: 20HT: 6-5WT: 189POS: SG

Analysis: Some information is starting to trickle out of Charlotte. The team is looking at Len, Bennett, Porter and Cody Zeller. In fact, I think Zeller might be in the mix more than I once believed. But my most convincing source persuaded me the Bobcats won't pass on McLemore if he's here.

5Alex LenPhoenix Suns
COLLEGE: MarylandAGE: 20HT: 7-1WT: 225POS: C
Analysis: The Suns' primary need is a scoring wing, but if Oladipo and McLemore are off the board, don't be surprised if the Suns grab Len here. New general manager Ryan McDonough is a fan of Len's, and with Marcin Gortat heading into the last year of his deal, Len quite literally could become the centerpiece of the franchise. Michael Carter-Williams and Zeller also are real possibilities here.

6Michael Carter-WilliamsNew Orleans Pelicans
COLLEGE: SyracuseAGE: 21HT: 6-6WT: 184POS: PG

Analysis: The Pelicans might be tempted by Bennett, but they have a bigger need at point guard. While they like Austin Rivers, Carter-Williams is more of the pure point guard they think could be the perfect set-up man for Anthony Davis. Trey Burke is an option here as is C.J. McCollum, but it looks like Carter-Williams might be the best fit.

7C.J. McCollumSacramento Kings
COLLEGE: LehighAGE: 21HT: 6-3WT: 197POS: PG

Analysis: The Kings are engaged in trade talks with a number of teams, and they might move this pick. If they keep it, McCollum makes sense. The team wants a point guard who can shoot the ball. That was supposed to be Jimmer Fredette two years ago, but it looks like the team might be moving on. I also wouldn't be surprised if Utah moved up to No. 7 to land McCollum.

8Anthony BennettDetroit Pistons

Analysis: For a third year in a row, the Pistons are hoping that one of the top seven players on the board takes a surprise dip on draft night. They might get their wish. While the team is after a point guard, Bennett might be too good to pass up. He can play both the 4 and the 3 and gives them another great scoring option in their frontcourt. Carter-Williams would be another serious option here.

9Kentavious Caldwell-PopeMinnesota Timberwolves
COLLEGE: GeorgiaAGE: 20HT: 6-6WT: 204POS: SG

Analysis: Of all the picks in this mock draft, this is the one I'm most sure of. We've had Caldwell-Pope here for over a month and we're not moving him unless Minnesota trades up to No. 2, 4 or 5 to land Oladipo.

10Steven AdamsPortland Trail Blazers
COLLEGE: PittsburghAGE: 19HT: 7-0WT: 255POS: C

Analysis: The Blazers are hoping McCollum or Caldwell-Pope are on the board. But if they aren't? It will come down to Trey Burke, Steven Adams and Cody Zeller. It's a tough three-way race, but I give the edge to Adams. Given his size, Burke might struggle to play in the same backcourt as Damian Lillard. On the surface Adams might look a lot like last year's pick Meyers Leonard, but the Blazers could use more bigs, and Adams wowed them in workouts.

11Cody ZellerPhiladelphia 76ers
COLLEGE: IndianaAGE: 20HT: 7-0WT: 230POS: C

Analysis: Zeller is getting a lot of buzz now with the Bobcats, Suns and Blazers. We've had him here in every mock draft, and this is the first time I feel like he won't be there. If the Bobcats or Suns swap picks with the T-Wolves, Zeller could be their guy. I'm told Sergey Karasev, Kelly Olynyk and Mason Plumlee are options here, but probably only if Zeller is off the board.

12Trey BurkeOklahoma City Thunder via Toronto Raptors
COLLEGE: MichiganAGE: 20HT: 6-1WT: 187POS: PG

Analysis: The Thunder have a lot of interest in Steven Adams, but in this scenario, he's gone. Sergey Karasev and Kelly Olynyk are other possibilities, but if Burke is here, he might be tough to pass on. With Russell Westbrook coming back from injury, Burke would give them a game-ready point guard who could play right away. This is a situation where the team simply can't pass on the talent.

13Sergey KarasevDallas Mavericks
COUNTRY: RussiaAGE: 19HT: 6-7WT: 197POS: SF
Analysis: The Mavericks continue to lean heavily toward trading the pick (if they haven't already). According to various reports, one scenario floating around has them swapping picks with the Cavs. If that happens, it's almost certainly to be for Karasev. There are several other teams who are after Karasev, including the Bucks, Hawks and Nets, and they could be great trade partners. If the Mavericks keep the pick, Michael Carter-Williams and Dennis Schroeder also would be possibilities here.

14Lucas NogueiraUtah Jazz
COUNTRY: BrazilAGE: 20HT: 7-0WT: 220POS: C
Analysis: Not much has changed here since the last mock. If C.J. McCollum, Trey Burke or Michael Carter-Williams (probably in that order) are on the board, the Jazz go point guard. If they're gone? The team isn't in love with any of the point guards left. They also need bigs (both Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap are free agents this summer) and it looks as if they're open to using the draft to help address that need. Nogueira isn't the only guy they'll look at here. Kelly Olynyk and Mason Plumlee also have a shot. But I think Nogueira is the most intriguing of the group.

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15Shane LarkinMilwaukee Bucks
COLLEGE: MiamiAGE: 20HT: 6-0WT: 171POS: PG
Analysis: If the draft plays out this way, the Bucks are looking at three names -- Larkin, Dennis Schroeder or Glen Rice Jr., who came in for a second workout Tuesday. It's hard to say which way the Bucks are leaning, but it looks like Larkin has the slight edge.

16Kelly OlynykBoston Celtics
COLLEGE: GonzagaAGE: 22HT: 7-0WT: 234POS: PF

Analysis: The Celtics are in full rebuilding mode, but I'm not sure how that affects the draft. I keep hearing four names: Adams, Dennis Schroeder, Larkin or Olynyk. Over the course of the past 24 hours, it seems like Olynyk is gaining momentum there. He's a very skilled big man who would add size and scoring to the Celtics' front line.

17Giannis AntetokounmpoAtlanta Hawks via Houston Rockets
COUNTRY: GreeceAGE: 18HT: 6-9WT: 215POS: SF

Analysis: I continue to hear Antetokounmpo's name here. The Hawks can stash him overseas, let him develop, and in a few years he could be the steal of the draft. Or we'll all forget they drafted him. Either scenario probably works for Atlanta.

18Shabazz MuhammadAtlanta Hawks

Analysis: There's a point at which a player's reward outweighs the risk. I'm not sure where Muhammad's floor is, but it has to be pretty close. Yes, there are flaws in his game, but at some point you can't ignore his scoring abilities. The Hawks have been doing a lot of research on Muhammad the past few days. Plumlee, San Diego State's Jamaal Franklin and Michigan's Tim Hardaway Jr. also are possibilities.

19Reggie BullockCleveland Cavaliers via Los Angeles Lakers
COLLEGE: North CarolinaAGE: 22HT: 6-7WT: 200POS: SF

Analysis: If the Cavs grab Noel at No. 1, look for them to add a small forward or shooter with the second first-round pick. They would love to get their hands on Karasev if they could; they are trying to move up to grab him. Moving to No. 13 seems to be the consensus of where they need to get to, and it looks as if they are willing to eat Shawn Marion's salary for a year to get there in a trade with Dallas. If they can't get to No. 13, Bullock is another shooter on whom they really are high. Bullock shot 44 percent from 3-point range this season and has the size to play both wing positions.

20Mason PlumleeChicago Bulls
COLLEGE: DukeAGE: 23HT: 6-10WT: 238POS: PF

Analysis: Every mock draft, we alternate between a big and a wing for the Bulls. They need both. Plumlee is an interesting case. Lots of teams like him, few love him. But I think it would be hard for the Bulls to pass on Plumlee's value at No. 20. Tim Hardaway Jr. and Jamaal Franklin are other possibilities.

21Isaiah CanaanUtah Jazz via Golden State Warriors
SCHOOL: Murray StateAGE: 22HT: 6-0WT: 188POS: PG

Analysis: If the Jazz pass on a point guard at No. 14, they have to be content with what's left at No. 21. This one might come down to Schroeder and Cannan. Schroeder is bigger, but Canaan is a much better scorer. It's really tough to pinpoint who they'd choose, but I think Canaan has the edge. Nogueira and France's Rudy Gobert also are potential picks here if the Jazz go with a point guard at No. 14.

22Gorgui DiengBrooklyn Nets
COLLEGE: LouisvilleAGE: 23HT: 6-11WT: 230POS: C

Analysis: Dieng has slid in the draft thanks to concerns about his knees, but a number of teams in the 20s still seem willing to take the risk. With Minnesota in serious talks to swap this pick for the Nets' MarShon Brooks, I could see the Nets grabbing another big to fill out their front line.

23Dennis SchroederIndiana Pacers
COUNTRY: GermanyAGE: 19HT: 6-2WT: 165POS: PG

Analysis: The Pacers are looking at point guards and bigs. If Schroeder falls, he seems like a no-brainer to the Pacers. He's long, young and athletic and can really get to the basket. He won't be ready to contribute for Indiana now, but in the long term, he could be their best pick here.

24Jamaal FranklinNew York Knicks
COLLEGE: San Diego St.AGE: 22HT: 6-5WT: 191POS: SG

Analysis: Franklin is super-athletic and can play multiple positions. He's not a need pick per se. The Knicks could really use a power forward, but Franklin has more upside and adds a toughness that Knicks fans will love. Tony Mitchell also is a possibility here.

25Tim Hardaway Jr.Los Angeles Clippers
COLLEGE: MichiganAGE: 21HT: 6-6WT: 199POS: SG

Analysis: The Clippers are going for it and are going to need all the help they can get. That might force them to take a veteran guard who can give them shooting and minutes. Hardaway is a coach's favorite, and I could see the Clippers thinking he'd make a great fit at No. 25.

26Allen CrabbeMinnesota Timberwolves via Memphis Grizzlies
COLLEGE: CalAGE: 21HT: 6-6WT: 197POS: SG

Analysis: Minnesota wants shooting and they need help at the 2 and 3. I think they could grab another shooter, even if the take Caldwell-Pope at No. 9. Crabbe has the size to play the 3 and would add another target for Ricky Rubio. Rudy Gobert also is a possibility here.

27Tony SnellDenver Nuggets
COLLEGE: New MexicoAGE: 21HT: 6-7WT: 198POS: SG

Analysis: The Nuggets are in danger of losing Andre Iguodalathis summer after he opted to become a free agent. What they really need is a shooter. Snell and Ricky Ledo are the best shooters left on the board.

28Rudy GobertSan Antonio Spurs
COUNTRY: FranceAGE: 20HT: 7-2WT: 238POS: PF

Analysis: The Spurs need size and have never shied away from taking international players. What Gobert lacks in athletic ability, he makes up with extreme length for his position. The Spurs also can stash him overseas if they need the cash.

29Ricky LedoOklahoma City Thunder
COLLEGE: ProvidenceAGE: 20HT: 6-6WT: 197POS: SG

Analysis: This might be a bit of a reach. But the Thunder have been looking for an elite shooting guard, and Ledo is as talented as several players in the lottery. He has lots of off-court issues, but the Thunder might try to rehabilitate him in their excellent D-League franchise.

30Erick GreenPhoenix Suns via Miami Heat
SCHOOL: Virginia TechAGE: 22HT: 6-3WT: 178POS: PG

Analysis: Green was one of the best scorers in the country this season and some teams think he can make the transition to point guard in the pros. The Suns are down on last year's lottery pick Kendall Marshall. Green could provide some scoring punch to the backcourt.

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