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Old 06-24-2013, 10:59 PM   #1
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Default Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

Does anyone get it? I mean he did have a decent supporting cast? Right?
Does anyone know the answer to this question and mystery?
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:17 PM   #2
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

its because lebron is the GOAT... even when jordan left the bulls they were still a winning team
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:20 PM   #3
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

Because Lebron is the GOAT. If MJ left his rookie team, they'd easily be playing at the same level without MJ.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:21 PM   #4
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

Lebron left. Shaq left. Big Z left. Brown left. Delonte left. Andy V got injured. Jamison got injured. Mo got traded. Hickson became the first and only option. Possibility of Kyrie? Tank mode on.

The 2009-2010 Cavs were not even remotely the same as the 2010-2011 Cavs. Not only the roster, but the identity and purpose of the teams.


But you're trolling, so carry on.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:22 PM   #5
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

Was it because of a new coach? Was Brown fired before or after Lebron left? I think it was before, my memory is not so clear sometimes.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:23 PM   #6
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

Because he's one of those unique players who makes your team a contender under any realistic circumstance.

With the way Cleveland was built around LeBron, he was the one creating a huge majority of the shots or taking them himself...... take that away and you have guys in roles they're not effective at.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:25 PM   #7
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

Because half the team left with him.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:30 PM   #8
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

i hate when people use that stupid excuse for lebron. "well lebron left and the team only won 19 games"

the third post explains it all.

at one point our staring lineup was

ramon sessions
alonzo gee
joey graham
j.j. hickson
samardo samuels

with guys like
jawad williams
luke harangody
donald sloan
lester hudson

coming of the bench

we were basically a d-league team that year.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:31 PM   #9
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

They lost most of their starters (including Lebron) and fired their coach. Also, Varejao is never healthy
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:31 PM   #10
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

so they got rid of every last bandwagoner
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:32 PM   #11
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

I didn't watch basketball before the decision, must have been cause Lebron is the GOAT right?
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:34 PM   #12
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

This whole thing about the Cavs being a different team......

They lost:

Shaq
Washed up Big Z
West

Gained:

Full season of Jamison (well really half a year due to injury)
Sessions (who actually played well)
Gee

Not like they lost a bunch of really good players along with Bron. They lost FAIRLY EASILY REPLACEABLE players....and gained some fairly replaceable players.

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Old 06-24-2013, 11:35 PM   #13
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Batz
Lebron left. Shaq left. Big Z left. Brown left. Delonte left. Andy V got injured. Jamison got injured. Mo got traded. Hickson became the first and only option. Possibility of Kyrie? Tank mode on.

The 2009-2010 Cavs were not even remotely the same as the 2010-2011 Cavs. Not only the roster, but the identity and purpose of the teams.


But you're trolling, so carry on.
beat me to it
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:38 PM   #14
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

The funny part is the Cavs went into that season still thinking they could at least be .500. It didn't take long though for them to realize that without LeBron they were nothing. Traded Mo Williams midseason, started playing NBDL guys to tank games.

In the beginning of the year when they were still trying to win games they still sucked. They were 8-24 by New Years, and that losing streak would end up continuing to 8-45.

LeBrons new Heat team wins 27 in a row, but his old Cavs team loses 26 in a row in the first year without him.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:39 PM   #15
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Default Re: Why did Cleveland go from a 60 win team to a 15 win team when Lebron left?

Everyone who left that team is the Goat especially Danny Green
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