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Old 07-03-2013, 12:33 PM   #136
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They didn't kill the dog on purpose. The dog ATTACKED the police and they had to put him down AFTER trying to restrain the dog initially. That moron looked like he wanted to be arrested, carefully analyze the guys body language. The way he was walking towards them looked like he was ready to punch them or something.

He then locked his dog in the car, with windows wide open.
The definition of an idiot.

I think most of us can agree that the guy sucks as an owner, but I still don't see why the dog had to be shot.

The dog did not have to die, not to mention you approach any dog like that and they're not going to react in a friendly manner. He approached it once and it reactedly negatively, then the guy goes back in to try it a second time, wtf was he thinking.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:43 PM   #137
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dog didnbt deserve it, but owner did
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:10 PM   #138
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I think most of us can agree that the guy sucks as an owner, but I still don't see why the dog had to be shot.

The dog did not have to die, not to mention you approach any dog like that and they're not going to react in a friendly manner. He approached it once and it reactedly negatively, then the guy goes back in to try it a second time, wtf was he thinking.
Well I think it is obvious he wasn't thinking and he needs to be punished for that. Completely uncalled for.
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:48 PM   #139
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Generally speak I support recording the police, but there is a time and place for everything. An armed robbery situation isn't the time to go harass police officers about the lack of diversity on the force and blare your music loudly at them. If you want to make this complaint at almost any other time I would support you, but during an armed robbery situation maybe don't go over and start stuff with police officers already busy and stressed.

Now with that said it is tragic the dog had to die. But I understand why the cop did that. The dog was a threat, probably not a mortal threat, but a dog bite could have seriously wounded an officer. I put 70% of the blame on the owner, and 30% on the cop.
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:56 PM   #140
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It's not illegal to record the police.
Why did he get arrested in the 1st place?

Armed robbers barricaded themselves in their victims house

This guy drives up to them blares his radio loudly making it harder for them to hear what's going on inside the house and communicate.

Guy starts to question why there are no black cops.

I think the guy acted totally unreasonably. I don't think it was ridiculous to arrest the guy in that situation. There were lots of people recording the cops. He is the only one that got arrested, because he insisted on inserting himself into the situation.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:01 PM   #141
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Because he's a black guy with a Rottweiler?

You wouldn't have arrested him in that situation?
-your outside a victim's house where the armed robbers have barricaded themselves in the house
-random guy comes up and blasts loud music, thereby hindering your communication and ability to hear what is going on in the house.
-He walks close to you
-refuses to turn down his music and go away.
-starts to criticise you for the lack of diversity

Its a stressful situation already, and he was being an irritant on purpose in order to get attention.
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Old 07-03-2013, 05:28 PM   #142
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People mentioning that the cops were already in a stressful situation need to realize these guys are paid to handle stressful situations. It's not the dog's fault he encountered a trigger happy piece of shit.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:26 PM   #143
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Cops are the sickest animals on this planet and it's sad how protected they are by society. Absolutely sickening above the law ****s
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:51 PM   #144
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Never bring a Rottweiler to a gun fight.

I feel sorry for the dog but his owner is an idiot


That's all there is to this story, loyal dog, dumbazz owner
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:02 PM   #145
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People mentioning that the cops were already in a stressful situation need to realize these guys are paid to handle stressful situations. It's not the dog's fault he encountered a trigger happy piece of shit.

There are two faults here. Just because the police are at fault for shooting the dog doesn't mean the owner is justified in his behaviour.

Do you know what handling a stressful situation means? It includes the category - making sure people passing by don't interject themselves into the situation because it might compromise it. Their job is as much to handle the immediate situation as it is to make sure that other people are not interfering in it. Dozens of people were filming, yet this guy drew their attention because of his behaviour.

The dog is the victim in the story, just because the guy owned the dog doesn't make him a victim too. Unless you call him a victim of his own reckless and stupid behaviour.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:29 PM   #146
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The cops should have never messed with the guy to begin with. THAT'S what caused the dog to get shot.

Just for clarification, here's the timeline of events:

1. Guy is on the street corner, dog on leash, recording the cops.
2. Two cops half a block up start discussing his presence.
3. They begin to walk towards him after staring at him.
4. The guy puts his dog in the car and walks toward the cops.
5. The cop motions for him to turn around, and detains him.
6. The two cops then assault the man, and the dog starts barking and gets out of the car.
7. The dog goes over to the cops and starts barking for his owner.
8. The cop reaches out for the dog, but not for the leash.
9. When the dog bucks up at the officer, he shoots him four times.

Since it is not illegal to film public servants in the commission of their duties, nor is it illegal to have a dog on a leash, the cops instigated the actions that took place, and are fully responsible for the results.

Simply put, those cops who assaulted him, arrested him, and shot his dog are all engaged in criminal acts, to which this department is doing it's very best to tap dance away from and cover up.

There were extra cops (the ones involved) why didn't they set up a perimeter?
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:35 PM   #147
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The cops should have never messed with the guy to begin with. THAT'S what caused the dog to get shot.

Just for clarification, here's the timeline of events:

1. Guy is on the street corner, dog on leash, recording the cops.
2. Two cops half a block up start discussing his presence.
3. They begin to walk towards him after staring at him.
4. The guy puts his dog in the car and walks toward the cops.
5. The cop motions for him to turn around, and detains him.
6. The two cops then assault the man, and the dog starts barking and gets out of the car.
7. The dog goes over to the cops and starts barking for his owner.
8. The cop reaches out for the dog, but not for the leash.
9. When the dog bucks up at the officer, he shoots him four times.

Since it is not illegal to film public servants in the commission of their duties, nor is it illegal to have a dog on a leash, the cops instigated the actions that took place, and are fully responsible for the results.

Simply put, those cops who assaulted him, arrested him, and shot his dog are all engaged in criminal acts, to which this department is doing it's very best to tap dance away from and cover up.

There were extra cops (the ones involved) why didn't they set up a perimeter?
What about blaring his music so loud and refuse to cooperate when they told him to turn it down and not be too close to the area?
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:38 PM   #148
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Why didn't they put a perimeter up? There was a swat team handling the situation plus how many extra cops? How hard it is to put a barricade or tape up? The irony of the whole story is they arrest him for video taping, and after all this bullshit happened they are now asking the community to send in their videos so they can see what happened... What a ****ing joke of a police department.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:40 PM   #149
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What about blaring his music so loud and refuse to cooperate when they told him to turn it down and not be too close to the area?
Or blocking the intersection to begin with and having to be told to move the car. Then he moves the car to the curb gets out but leaves music blaring. Tells cops to "f*ck off it's my radio" when they ask him to turn it down. tells cops he's there to protect people's civil rights.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:40 PM   #150
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Why didn't they put a perimeter up? There was a swat team handling the situation plus how many extra cops? How hard it is to put a barricade or tape up? The irony of the whole story is they arrest him for video taping, and after all this bullshit happened they are now asking the community to send in their videos so they can see what happened... What a ****ing joke of a police department.
So if they didn't put up a perimeter it's okay to just waltz in with a boombox. Even after told otherwise by a policeman.
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