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Old 07-16-2013, 04:39 AM   #106
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not much he can do when the other two stars play like complete garbage for most of the playoffs.

I have not seen Wade being used as a screener. It worked for Lebron. I'm sure it can work for Wade.
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if wade learned how to shoot miami would be clear favorites again
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doesn't matter what player but they need someone else who can create offense. too easy to stop them when it's just rose

That is a good point. Bulls don't have much great ballhandlers. They definitely need guys like Pau Gasol who can pass or create/cause a mismatch much like Noah.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:44 AM   #109
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Why is Miami going to be worse?

Bosh is certainly not being used in the post (and probably hardly ever will). Wade will continue to decline unless his shooting got better, but his knees are completely shot.

They won another championship, so the desire to go at it again is lessened.
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Age doesn't matter. You're acting like they're the aging celtics or something. Maybe in a couple of seasons but this season i think Miami will stay the same. In fact, I think they get better because of better team chemistry.

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How would a Howard-Aldridge front-court look like?

It matters for Wade, they barley won this year next year is a lot thougher if every team doesn't get crippled with injuries.

That would be a perfect fit, LMA is money from midrange and is another offensive beast. They would have four very capable scorers. LMA would probably make them real contenders I just don't see Asik and Dwight doing work offensively.
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True, but I also think Dwight needs a role player big if he's gonna have a true big next to him. because Gortat (especially at the time) was definitely more of a low post guy. And Dwight is as well, too much in the paint even for that spaced of a team. Whereas with Bass/Rashard/Anderson/whoever else they used typically the person was more of a high post/midrange person if he even shot inside the arc.

Having a midrange/high post or long range player will certainly be better chemistry with Dwight, but I think that's negated if the players outside the paint are struggling to hit their shots. Not only that, but Dwight would practically be the only one rebounding (usually).

I feel the best way is a mix of both. First play your shooters + Dwight. If it isn't working, you gotta go with Gortat/Howard at least to stop the bleeding.
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Age doesn't matter. You're acting like they're the aging celtics or something. Maybe in a couple of seasons but this season i think Miami will stay the same. In fact, I think they get better because of better team chemistry.

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How would a Howard-Aldridge front-court look like?

Players like Ray might shoot better, but offense is still the same.

Aldridge Howard frontcourt would be beastly. Both cover up each others' weaknesses.
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No Kirk, No Rose, no Deng, a mostly healthy but not entirely Noah. Sick Nate/Marco and they still gave them a five game series, that should have been six.

Factor that in, plus a third year Jimmy, some new actual shooters...I think the Bulls have a very very very good chance of beating them.


Seriously Miami struggled against a team playing Nate Robinson, Marco Belinelli, and R.I.P. as their guards. And they had to play carlos boozer big minutes. Even if only Rose/Kirk/Jimmy/Noah are healthy I think the Bulls win. Thibs became a really really really good coach last year.

Yes. I thought Bulls could have beaten Miami if everyone was healthy as well, but that wasn't the case.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:51 AM   #114
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So what would you say are the main differences between that team and the present team?

I know Bogans was f*cking trash, what else?

Butler is a much much much much much much much better defender than Bogans and can do better offensively.

Noah is also more polished all around.

Those are the main two that sticks out.
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No Kirk, No Rose, no Deng, a mostly healthy but not entirely Noah. Sick Nate/Marco and they still gave them a five game series, that should have been six.

Factor that in, plus a third year Jimmy, some new actual shooters...I think the Bulls have a very very very good chance of beating them.


Seriously Miami struggled against a team playing Nate Robinson, Marco Belinelli, and R.I.P. as their guards. And they had to play carlos boozer big minutes. Even if only Rose/Kirk/Jimmy/Noah are healthy I think the Bulls win. Thibs became a really really really good coach last year.

Noah is maybe not as good as Rose but if you ask me almost as important, definitely second best center in the league (Bynum injured don't know how much he has regressed)

With the big leap Noah took last year and maybe Rose coming back in good shape Bulls are definitely in contention.
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If Bulls get LMA beside Noah, good night.
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If Bulls get LMA beside Noah, good night.
How about LMA instead of Boozer?
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How about LMA instead of Boozer?

That is what I meant, if TB wants to gun for Wiggins they do this. If bulls have any expirer they also give it to the blazers and take on a bad contract.

LaMarcus+ Nosh and Taj coming in from the bench is without any doubt the best frontcourt in the league.

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Thanks Rose.

LMA on the Bulls would be pretty sweet but I don't see Portland trading him.
I think he wants out.
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BTE = Where the most mature basketball dissucussion happens.

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I love these NBA late night talks.
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