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Old 08-31-2013, 06:26 PM   #76
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Big men in Euroleague that are better than Lampe...are,

In no order:

Kyle Hines
Nenad Krstic
Ioannis Bourousis
Ante Tomic
Stephane Lasme
Sasha Kaun

About the same level as Lampe,

Joey Dorsey
Mirza Begic
Semih Erden
Nate Jawai
Loukas Mavrokefalidis
Marcus Slaughter
Alexis Ajinca
Sofoklis Schortsanitis
Shawn James

Fran Vazquez used to be about the same level as Lampe, but he was awful last year.

I'm not sure about guys like John Bryant, Salah Mejri, Bryant Dunston and Cedric Simmons, because this will be their first year in Euroleague.

If you want to claim Lampe as a top 5-10 big then that is fine. But you are going way overboard in saying he's the best. Sorry, but no way in hell is he as good as guys like Kyle Hines, Ioannis Bourousis, Ante Tomic, and really not Krstic either, even though Krstic is also really bad at defense.

I said one of the best and I forgot about Tomic, I would probably take Tomic over Lampe because I like his game more.

Hines is a midget and not on Lampe's level.
Krstic, seriously?
Bourousis, forget it.
Lasme, forget him as well.
Sasha Kaun is a ****ing scrub.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:27 PM   #77
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First of all, Lampe is in no way in hell the best big man in Europe. I would say he might be the best pick and roll big man on offense.

I will give him that. But the best big man in Europe...uh no way in hell. He's absolutely horrifically bad on defense.

I honestly cannot think of another big man in Euroleague that is as bad at defense as he is. Lampe is maybe something in the top 5-10. No way is he anything near the best big man in Europe.


Jerebko and Taylor..........neither one of them could even make Greece's national team.

Neither one of them could make the Greek national team.

Lampe would destroy anyone on the Greek NT and Jeff Taylor and Jerebko are easily better than anyone on the greek roster.

Or maybe you like to claim that the scrub Spanoulis is better than Taylor and Jerebko..
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Hedo is by far and away the worst player on Turkey's national team.

That's why he was the Turkish player selected for all-tournament team for the 2010 WC. Something that scrub Spanoulis could only dream of.

You are really and idiot.
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That's why he was the Turkish player selected for all-tournament team for the 2010 WC. Something that scrub Spanoulis could only dream of.

You are really and idiot.

so why not just ignore him?
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That's why he was the Turkish player selected for all-tournament team for the 2010 WC. Something that scrub Spanoulis could only dream of.

You are really and idiot.

That was in 2010 now he's terrible. He wouldn't be that bad if he had some smaller role in the team but he countinues to play like he did before and is only hurting his team.
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Hedo is by far and away the worst player on Turkey's national team.
Pull that meth pipe out. It's supposed to go in your mouth.
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Prove me wrong.

Taylor and Jerebko are by far better than anyone for the greek team.

LOL
maybe they are better in NBA type of ball, but surely not under international set of rules
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It's close to last one, probably slightly stronger overall. But there is no way Macedonia got better.

I didn't say Macedonia got better. I disagreed with the claim that they definitely got worse. They are pretty much the same exact team as they were, with the Stojanovski brothers now being more experienced.

They didn't get better, but they are not worse either.
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I said one of the best and I forgot about Tomic, I would probably take Tomic over Lampe because I like his game more.

Hines is a midget and not on Lampe's level.
Krstic, seriously?
Bourousis, forget it.
Lasme, forget him as well.
Sasha Kaun is a ****ing scrub.

You have never ever seen a Euroleague game in your entire life.
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Lampe would destroy anyone on the Greek NT and Jeff Taylor and Jerebko are easily better than anyone on the greek roster.

Or maybe you like to claim that the scrub Spanoulis is better than Taylor and Jerebko..

Ignore list. You are just another crazy psycho.
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That's why he was the Turkish player selected for all-tournament team for the 2010 WC. Something that scrub Spanoulis could only dream of.

You are really and idiot.

You would be laughed off any Turkish basketball forum and then perma banned. Hedo is an absolute colossal level scrub and one of the hugest cancers of all time.

He's the 2nd worst FIBA player, being 2nd only to Belineli.

You never cease to amaze with your endless level of idiocy. You really are truly certifiably INSANE.
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That was in 2010 now he's terrible. He wouldn't be that bad if he had some smaller role in the team but he countinues to play like he did before and is only hurting his team.

You are talking to the same guy that has never in his life seen a FIBA game that did not have Team USA playing in it.

But of course the same guy loves to talk about "facts" and pretend that he is some kind of international basketball guru.

And the same guy that bases everything on Wikipedia pages for his "facts".

Just ignore that freaking clown. Anyone that has seen Hedo play in the last few years knows how outright awful he is now.

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LOL
maybe they are better in NBA type of ball, but surely not under international set of rules

Some of these guys....good god the idiocy.

Freaking Jerebko was an average role player on freaking Biela in the Italian League.

Oh yeah, this guy is CLEARLY way better than any Greek player. Coach Itoudis had him in the Pistons training camp and said he would make a good THIRD string power forward for Panathinaikos.



Taylor............seriously. No.

Jerebko would not get selected over Printezis, Kaimakoglou, or Fotsis. He would not make the Greek NT.

Taylor would not get selected over Papanikolaou or Perperoglou. He would not make the Greek NT either. Hell, I would even take Bramos over him. Bramos is more athletic, he's a better finisher, he is a better defender, and he's a better shooter.

And this clown actually thinks Jerebko, Lampe and Taylor are better than Spanoulis..................unbelievable how delusional some of these morons here are.

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Current NBA players (I'll update this, the rosters aren't finalized for all teams yet):
Former NBA players

France
Nicolas Batum
Tony Parker
Boris Diaw
Nando De Colo
Mickael Gelabale
Alexis Ajinca
Johan Petro


Spain
Jose Calderon
Ricky Rubio
Marc Gasol
Victor Claver
Rudy Fernandez
Sergio Rodriguez


Russia
Alexey Shved
Sergey Karasev
Sergey Monya

Sweden
Jonas Jerebko
Jeff Taylor

Turkey
Omer Asik
Ersan Ilyasova
Hedo Turkoglu
Semih Erden


Bosnia
Mirza Teletovic

Lithuania
Donatas Motiejunas
Jonas Valanciunas
Linas Kleiza

Macedonia
Pero Antic

Serbia
Nemanja Nedovic
Nenad Krstic

Czech Republic
Jan Vesely
Jiri Welsch

Poland
Marcin Gortat
Maciej Lampe

Slovenia
Goran Dragic
Bostjan Nachbar

Italy
Marco Belinelli
Gigi Datome
Travis Diener

Israel
Omri Casspi

Ukraine
Vyacheslav Kravtsov
Pooh Jeter

Finland
Hanno Möttölä

Greece
Vassilis Spanoulis
Antonis Fotsis


Montenegro
Nikola Vucevic


Uros Slokar also played in the NBA. Roko Ukic also played in the NBA. Nikoloz Tsikitishvili also played in the NBA.

So you missed 3 NBA players. Probably some more I didn't think of.

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Teodosic won't play for Serbia. So no chance for a medal this year, I just hope we'll be at least top 8.
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