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Old 09-05-2013, 01:31 PM   #31
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Default Re: Clippers might actually fail again?

Clippers always look good on paper but have been failing to live up to their hype since the arrival of CP3

I feel like they don't have the same tenacity as other teams do, the will to win.

Obviously they have other flaws too, lack of competent bigs besides Griff, Passiveness of CP3 and so on.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:31 PM   #32
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No elite wing. CP3 can easily be taken out of a series.. dude is too soft and unathletic.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:54 PM   #33
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Default Re: Clippers might actually fail again?

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Clippers gonna Clip.

Memphis will still dump on them.

only because paul allows a slow pace against them

"shut up vinnie, we don't need to get out and run! Yo Bake, pick 'n pop. 3 - 2 - 1 break!"

Which team wins the three legged race from one basket to the other??

Griffen & DeAndre Vs Zbo & Gasol


and yes, clippers gonna clip.

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Old 09-05-2013, 02:44 PM   #34
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I think Doc and Gentry will do wonders for the team. Doc on the defensive side and Gentry on the offensive side. With Vinny it was really predictable. At times the players didn't know what play to run it was ridiculous. They won games just on sheer talent. So I think the coaching will help, especially in the playoffs.
Griffin needs to be used right. Play him more in the low post, he's extremely efficient in the paint. His foot work and post game have improved. He usually gets it done in the paint. Plus he's a terrific passer for his position which when he is doubled leaves someone open. That's where guys like Dudley, Redick, etc will benefit. Plus if he plays in the closer to the basket his rebounding numbers will go up again. Griffin and DJ are still young players, having Doc will help them develop.
Thank goodness Billups is gone, so washed up..waste of space on the team. Just being honest. Butler was a great guy, but becoming a liability. A healthy Clippers team will go far in the playoffs.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:27 PM   #35
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Don't underestimate the loss of Billups. He was the lockerroom glue guy last year . They will miss him a lot.

He was a good voice in the locker room....but then again...so was Grant Hill. Why not mention the loss of Hill?
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:30 PM   #36
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Clippers are number 2 on my list of teams who could win west with Spurs at number 1.

Lmao @ having the Spurs, let alone the ****ing Clippers over OKC. Call me when the Clippers AKA flop city can even get out of the 1st round. Once teams start hustling every possession and playing defense in the playoffs the clippers offense (Griffin and Paul) can't do shit
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:33 PM   #37
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Lmao @ having the Spurs, let alone the ****ing Clippers over OKC. Call me when the Clippers AKA flop city can even get out of the 1st round. Once teams start hustling every possession and playing defense in the playoffs the clippers offense (Griffin and Paul) can't do shit

How's your bench looking with Gomes backing up Durant?
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He was a good voice in the locker room....but then again...so was Grant Hill. Why not mention the loss of Hill?

Because it didn't occur to me. You're absolutley, right that's another one they'll have to figure out for themselves now
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How's your bench looking with Gomes backing up Durant?

Lol, sorry we didn't lose 3 key players and replace them with 3 new key players hoping that it'll click this time. Roster stability is the reason SA, MIA, IND, OKC will be atop their conferences next year.

Russ
Sefolosha
KD
Ibaka
Perk

Reggie Jackson (gonna be a beast 6th man next year. Is basically Harden but not as skilled offensively so he won't command the ball as much and take looks from KD/Russ/Ibaka, but he'll do better on defense and on the glass)
Derek Fisher
Jeremy Lamb (at 19 years old played arguably better than any player has played while in the D-League for most of the season. Dominated the Summer league as well)
Ryan Gomes (will only get minutes when we blow out the opponent by the 4th)
Nick Collison
Hasheem Thabeet
Steven Adams

is not a bad bench and it's hilarious to ignore the fact that this is a star driven league and that Russ/KD shit on the Clips and Spurs.
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Because it didn't occur to me. You're absolutley, right that's another one they'll have to figure out for themselves now

GTS = Daily?

They lost some "player-coaches" but greatly improved the coaching staff. I think they are fine with that exchange.

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Lol, sorry we didn't lose 3 key players and replace them with 3 new key players hoping that it'll click this time. Roster stability is the reason SA, MIA, IND, OKC will be atop their conferences next year.

Russ
Sefolosha
KD
Ibaka
Perk

Reggie Jackson (gonna be a beast 6th man next year)
Derek Fisher
Jeremy Lamb
Ryan Gomes (will only get minutes when we blow out the opponent by the 4th)
Nick Collison
Hasheem Thabeet
Steven Adams

is not a bad a bench and it's hilarious to ignore the fact that this is a star driven league and that Russ/KD shit on the Clips and Spurs.

Erm, who lost 3 key players?

It isn't a bad bench, but it isn't a good bench either. What happens in case of an injury? Or starters being stagnant?

Blake also shits on OKC. 22/10/4/1/1 on 54 shooting with 15.4 shots per. Paul, as well, is only 20/4/10 with 3.5 steals/2.4 giveaways on 50/34/9 compared to the 20/4/7 with 1.5/3.5 on 38/29/82 for Russ. Durant is 28/8/3/1/1 on 42.6 shooting with 21.4 shots per.

Real shitting being done.

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Old 09-05-2013, 03:43 PM   #41
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Default Re: Clippers might actually fail again?

By far the player in the West and another top 5 player in the West + decent bench >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all star PG who is too passive and overrated PF who can't do shit but flop in the halfcourt (AKA playoff basketball) + decent bench.

Not to mention only like 3 guys on the Clips can even play defense.

Doc isn't gonna have the wiley veterans with KG/Pierce/Ray Allen to work with. He's working with some underacheiving floppers with most of that squad not even commited to playing D.

I have no idea why that team is getting overrated? Better than OKC?


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Old 09-05-2013, 04:20 PM   #42
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First, Deandre Jordan and Blake Griffin rebounding numbers aren't really high at 7.2 rpg and 8.3 rpg apiece. You imagine they rebound better with their athleticism but no. Jordan is tied at 20th in the league for offensive rebounding while Griffin in 29th so they aren't exactly good offensive rebounders, something that you need when your team is collectively based on outside shooting (With the addition of so many outside shooters)

Wow... if you're going to use stats at least use some context.

DJ plays 24.5 mpg and gets 7.2 rpg
BG plays 32.5mpg and gets 8.3 rpg

At least use their TRB% from last season...

DJ's is 17.6%
BG's is 15.2%
Total = 32.8%

Last season's rebounding champ was Dwight Howard and his TRB% was 19.1% for comparison. Pau Gasol, his partner in the front court's TRB% was 14.0%. Total between Dwight and Pau? 33.1%. Not a huge difference.
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:42 PM   #43
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By far the player in the West and another top 5 player in the West + decent bench >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all star PG who is too passive and overrated PF who can't do shit but flop in the halfcourt (AKA playoff basketball) + decent bench.

Not to mention only like 3 guys on the Clips can even play defense.

Doc isn't gonna have the wiley veterans with KG/Pierce/Ray Allen to work with. He's working with some underacheiving floppers with most of that squad not even commited to playing D.

I have no idea why that team is getting overrated? Better than OKC?


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Old 09-05-2013, 05:50 PM   #44
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The Clippers will go as far as their franchise player, Blake Griffin, takes them.

How much Griffin improves is how far the Clippers will go.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:13 PM   #45
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Lol, sorry we didn't lose 3 key players and replace them with 3 new key players hoping that it'll click this time. Roster stability is the reason SA, MIA, IND, OKC will be atop their conferences next year.

Russ
Sefolosha
KD
Ibaka
Perk

Reggie Jackson (gonna be a beast 6th man next year. Is basically Harden but not as skilled offensively so he won't command the ball as much and take looks from KD/Russ/Ibaka, but he'll do better on defense and on the glass)
Derek Fisher
Jeremy Lamb (at 19 years old played arguably better than any player has played while in the D-League for most of the season. Dominated the Summer league as well)
Ryan Gomes (will only get minutes when we blow out the opponent by the 4th)
Nick Collison
Hasheem Thabeet
Steven Adams

is not a bad bench and it's hilarious to ignore the fact that this is a star driven league and that Russ/KD shit on the Clips and Spurs.


Your team lacks interior scoring and that becomes a factor when the pressure is on and you need cheap points. Having Durant shoot long range bombs or Russ putting up an out of control shot is not a recipe for winning basketball.

OKC have some talent, but they are not deep enough IMO now to contend with the big boys. Different story when you had Harden coming of the bench and YES you do have a ordinary bench right now.
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