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Old 09-08-2013, 01:21 PM   #31
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Default Re: Dirk is a better scorer than Kobe

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I understand this is a troll thread, but honestly, Dirk isn't that far off. Dirk is an awesome scorer while being very efficient.

Kobe chucks more, which is why he averages more ppg
I think they are on the same tier as caliber of player.
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Old 09-08-2013, 01:23 PM   #32
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Dirk > Lebron and it's not even close.

It's not like he decided to take his talents elsewhere when people where saying he couldn't win the big one.
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Old 09-08-2013, 01:53 PM   #33
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Depends on how you define scorer I guess, but no definition puts Dirk over Kobe as a scorer in the regular season.

It's the playoffs where there is a debate...and yea...give me Dirk on offense over Kobe in the playoffs for sure. More efficient on the same number of ppg...doesn't dominate the ball as often...better in game winning situations and in the clutch and elimination games and game 7's...better shooter from 3 and ft line by a considerable margin as well.
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:15 PM   #34
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Default Re: Dirk is a better scorer than Kobe

Dirk is more effecient, but Kobe has the overall success of longer years of success but that's also a thing with having good teams and a better NBA city to play in.

Both players when they are hitting their shots are unstoppable but Dirk is more consistant and Kobe's more likely to have a night of stinking up the boxscore. Kobe's a better all around player but this is about scoring and shooting. Dirk is very effecient, and when you compare others at his position, it becomes even more so.
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:33 PM   #35
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58.4% TS% > 55.9% TS%.

So Dirks better than Lebron too then. 58.4% > 57.5% according to your logic
And Jordan

But not Magic, Magic's 61.0 TS% greater than Dirks
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:57 PM   #36
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Dirk can't impact the game like Kobe can. Which doesn't really need to be said.

Dirks never been on the level of Kobe scoring wise, it's easy to have a higher FG% when you're only playing 5-10 games in the playoffs majority of the time...Dirks Fg% is 1% higher than Kobes in the playoffs, which is pretty pathetic considering Dirk is 7ft, plays closer to the rim and has numerous playoffs appearances that only lasted 1 or 2 series compared to Kobe who's continually logging 20+ games in the off season

Dirk doesn't have one playoff run where he's averaged 30ppg compared to Kobe who's done it 5 times in playoff runs that went further than Dirks first round exits
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:02 PM   #37
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Dirk can't impact the game like Kobe can. Which doesn't really need to be said.

Dirks never been on the level of Kobe scoring wise, it's easy to have a higher FG% when you're only playing 5-10 games in the playoffs majority of the time...Dirks Fg% is 1% higher than Kobes in the playoffs, which is pretty pathetic considering Dirk is 7ft, plays closer to the rim and has numerous playoffs appearances that only lasted 1 or 2 series compared to Kobe who's continually logging 20+ games in the off season

Dirk doesn't have one playoff run where he's averaged 30ppg compared to Kobe who's done it 5 times in playoff runs that went further than Dirks first round exits

thats because dirk has never had a stacked team every single season like kobe. Dirk has a much greater impact on the game. no argument

thats why dirk swept kobe. kinda retarded if you disagree
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:05 PM   #38
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thats because dirk has never had a stacked team every single season like kobe. Dirk has a much greater impact on the game. no argument

thats why dirk swept kobe. kinda retarded if you disagree


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Old 09-08-2013, 04:12 PM   #39
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thats because dirk has never had a stacked team every single season like kobe. Dirk has a much greater impact on the game. no argument

thats why dirk swept kobe. kinda retarded if you disagree

What about all those 50 win seasons the Mavs had combined with the reputation of being post season pretenders?

I guess the regular season that was all Dirk, and the playoff failures are on his teammates..

So with your logic Dirk was the reason for his teams winning 50 games a year, however it's his teammates fault that they lose in the first round.. So if that's the case then why doesn't Dirk have ANY playoff runs where he averaged 30ppg? If Dirk was so dominate then surely he can put up 30ppg over a 5 game series?

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Old 09-08-2013, 04:57 PM   #40
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Default Re: Dirk is a better scorer than Kobe

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Dirk can't impact the game like Kobe can. Which doesn't really need to be said.

Dirks never been on the level of Kobe scoring wise, it's easy to have a higher FG% when you're only playing 5-10 games in the playoffs majority of the time...Dirks Fg% is 1% higher than Kobes in the playoffs, which is pretty pathetic considering Dirk is 7ft, plays closer to the rim and has numerous playoffs appearances that only lasted 1 or 2 series compared to Kobe who's continually logging 20+ games in the off season

Dirk doesn't have one playoff run where he's averaged 30ppg compared to Kobe who's done it 5 times in playoff runs that went further than Dirks first round exits

This would make sense if Dirk's long playoff runs saw a dip in scoring or efficiency, but they don't...Dirk's 3 longest playoff runs;

25 ppg on 59% TS
27 ppg on 60% TS
28 ppg on 61% TS

That is spaced out between 03 and 11....

So, uh, no...all the evidence shows that when Dirk is on teams good enough to make deep runs...his efficiency goes up.

Sorry. Facts kill.
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:01 PM   #41
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What about all those 50 win seasons the Mavs had combined with the reputation of being post season pretenders?

I guess the regular season that was all Dirk, and the playoff failures are on his teammates..

So with your logic Dirk was the reason for his teams winning 50 games a year, however it's his teammates fault that they lose in the first round.. So if that's the case then why doesn't Dirk have ANY playoff runs where he averaged 30ppg? If Dirk was so dominate then surely he can put up 30ppg over a 5 game series?

Must we really go over this again? The Mavs over achieved in the playoffs more than they underachieved.

They had 1 real year in which they truly underachieved....

And again...26/10/3 58.4% TS 24.7 PER in the playoffs for his career. One of the best elimination game and game 7 players of all time.

When you don't have the GOAT coach or peak Shaq...or a 2nd option like Gasol....gets tough in the playoffs.

See Kobe in 05...I won't even mention 06 and 07. Lakers didn't make the playoffs and would have been rocked in round 1 had they. It's hard to win in the playoffs without legit help.

Blaming the guy that has some of the best playoff numbers ever that steps up his game hugely in do or die games is a bad look...even for moronic Kobe stans
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:02 PM   #42
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Default Re: Dirk is a better scorer than Kobe

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This would make sense if Dirk's long playoff runs saw a dip in scoring or efficiency, but they don't...Dirk's 3 longest playoff runs;

25 ppg on 59% TS
27 ppg on 60% TS
28 ppg on 61% TS

That is spaced out between 03 and 11....

So, uh, no...all the evidence shows that when Dirk is on teams good enough to make deep runs...his efficiency goes up.

Sorry. Facts kill.

So you think Dirks a better scorer than Kobe Bryant?
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:03 PM   #43
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Oh...and;

Playoff ortg;

Dirk 118

Kobe 110

ROFL....
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:05 PM   #44
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So you think Dirks a better scorer than Kobe Bryant?

I already answered;

Kobe is a better scorer in the regular season

Dirk is a better scorer in the playoffs

Both of the above are pretty much impossible to dispute
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:05 PM   #45
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Nobody will remember Dirk in 20 years.
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