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Old 09-07-2013, 10:23 PM   #1
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Default Official Definition: Better Scorer Means Being Able To Score In More Ways

Scoring is an art, a science, in this league.

Some may say "it doesn't matter how it gets done as long as it gets done"

BUT IT DOES.

Being able to score in multiple ways allows you to face numerous defensive schemes, or individual defenders of varying attributes and either exploit a weakness, or adjust accordingly and still get the job done.

Shaq not being able to shoot free throws is an impediment on his scoring. Teams were able to hack him rather than actually allowing him to shoot near the basket because it was very possible Shaq would contribute 0 points on the possession rather than an easy 2.

Dwyane Wade's lack of a consistent 3 point shot for the most of his career was an impediment on his scoring. Ultimately it has also proved to be a detriment to his body, and decline of his overall effectiveness. Imagine Wade's health had he been able to spot up for a jumper a few more times a game rather than driving to the basket and getting pounded.

LeBron's lack of post game (prior to the past 2 seasons) prevented him from getting easy buckets, especially at critical points in a game. For a guy who failed so much in clutch situations for the majority of his career, imagine his success had he been able to use his 6"9 260lb frame to muscle smaller defenders and get a controlled shot opportunity close to the rim. Instead LeBron was left doing his usual, and predictable, "drive as fast as you can into the lane, into multiple defenders and try to get a layup" routine.

If I'm not mistaken, Reggie Miller has scored more points in his career than Allen Iverson. Many idiots on ISH would simplistically believe this statistic along with shooting percentages would indicate Reggie was a better scorer than AI. However, if you watch the game, and live life by some form of logic you'd know it's about overall skillset, not how efficiently you do ONE THING.

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Old 09-07-2013, 10:24 PM   #2
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Default Re: Official Definition: Better Scorer Means Being Able To Score In More Ways

No being a better scorer means scoring more points under superior efficiency.

Sorry but Melo sucks at scoring efficiently.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:29 PM   #3
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:29 PM   #4
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Default Re: Official Definition: Better Scorer Means Being Able To Score In More Ways

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No being a better scorer means scoring more points under superior efficiency.

Sorry but Melo sucks at scoring efficiently.

Insidehoops Logic:

Guy at the carnival hitting 30 shots in a row on the basketball game = Better scorer than Melo.

Better percentage = better scorer

Carnival Guy = 100% FG

Carnival Guy = GOAT

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Old 09-07-2013, 10:35 PM   #5
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Lol this a terrible biased definition. I guess Lamarcus Aldridge is a better scorer than Shaq
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:36 PM   #6
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No it doesn't. The better scorer is the player who has the greater abiltiy to put the ball in the basket. The guy you want using most of your teams possessions. The guy who has the best combination of volume, efficiency, consistency and reliability in scoring the ball.

Having more moves than the other guy doesn't mean sh!t if they don't make him more effective in putting the ball through the basket.

Who would you want using 30 of your teams possessions?:

a guy with a million moves who scores 25 pts on 40%?

or

a guy with 5 moves who scores 25 pts on 50%?

The guy that increases the chance of your teams success through scoring is the better scorer.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:37 PM   #7
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Default Re: Official Definition: Better Scorer Means Being Able To Score In More Ways

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Lol this a terrible biased definition. I guess Lamarcus Aldridge is a better scorer than Shaq

He is...

Shaq had a very limited offensive repertoire...

There is a difference between DOMINANT and BETTER

If a bunch of 6 year olds are playing a friendly game against another team, and the other team happens to have a 10 year old...a guy who towers over them all and can dominate them in strength, size and power he will be the best player on the court regardless of actual basketball skill.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:39 PM   #8
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Default Re: Official Definition: Better Scorer Means Being Able To Score In More Ways

No it doesn't. Being able to score more ways is "scoring arsenal".
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:40 PM   #9
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No it doesn't. The better scorer is the player who has the greater abiltiy to put the ball in the basket. The guy you want using most of your teams possessions. The guy who has the best combination of volume, efficiency, consistency and reliability in scoring the ball.

Having more moves than the other guy doesn't mean sh!t if they don't make him more effective in putting the ball through the basket.

Who would you want using 30 of your teams possessions?:

a guy with a million moves who scores 25 pts on 40%?

or

a guy with 5 moves who scores 25 pts on 50%?

The guy that increases the chance of your teams success through scoring is the better scorer.

I want the guy who can score in multiple ways.

Your logic you'd take Reggie Miller over Allen Iverson.

Get Reggie to put the ball on the floor....he cant do it.

Get Reggie to drive to the basket... cant do it well.

Get Reggie to post up.... cant do it.

Let's eliminate screeners... Reggies not as effective.

At the end of a game you don't always get the opportunity to use the SINGULAR WAY you most efficiently score. A jump shot wont always be there. A hook shot for Shaq wont always be there.

You need more weapons to react to different defenses.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:43 PM   #10
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No it doesn't. Being able to score more ways is "scoring arsenal".

If I'm a mechanic and I am effective at working on Ferrari's, Laborghini's, Corvettes, Mercedes, Audis, Bentley's, Cadillac's, etc

and you are a guy who specializes only on rotary engines like those in some Mazda's, but you're the best at rotary engines... I am a better mechanic than you.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:43 PM   #11
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Insidehoops Logic:

Guy at the carnival hitting 30 shots in a row on the basketball game = Better scorer than Melo.

Better percentage = better scorer

Carnival Guy = 100% FG

Carnival Guy = GOAT

thats iz crazy sad tho, how delusional can dem bastards get
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:44 PM   #12
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He is...

Shaq had a very limited offensive repertoire...

There is a difference between DOMINANT and BETTER

If a bunch of 6 year olds are playing a friendly game against another team, and the other team happens to have a 10 year old...a guy who towers over them all and can dominate them in strength, size and power he will be the best player on the court regardless of actual basketball skill.

21 ppg 48%, 22 ppg 50%, ect. vs. 29 ppg 58%, 30 ppg on 57%, ect.

Yeah player one is a MUCH better scorer lmao. It's past your bed time kid go hop in your Melo PJs
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:48 PM   #13
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21 ppg 48%, 22 ppg 50%, ect. vs. 29 ppg 58%, 30 ppg on 57%, ect.

Yeah player one is a MUCH better scorer lmao. It's past your bed time kid go hop in your Melo PJs

Youre such a simplistic piece of garbage bro. Your mind just isn't capable of thinking other than what people tell you.

Answer this you little piece of sh1t:

IS REGGIE MILLER A BETTER SCORER THAN ALLEN IVERSON?!
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:49 PM   #14
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Being a great scorer means leading your generation in missed FGAs. Means shooting contested instead of wide open teammates. Means bad decision brick shots in close games.

Melo is a great scorer !




Also, OP pullin out all the stops to embarrass himself obsessin over Melo
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:50 PM   #15
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Being a great scorer means leading your generation in missed FGAs. Means shooting contested instead of wide open teammates. Means bad decision brick shots in close games.

Melo is a great scorer !




Also, OP pullin out all the stops to embarrass himself obsessin over Melo

At the end of a game you don't always get the opportunity to use the SINGULAR WAY you most efficiently score. A jump shot wont always be there. A hook shot for Shaq wont always be there.

You need more weapons to react to different defenses.
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