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Old 09-19-2013, 07:27 AM   #46
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Default Re: Trent Richardson traded to Colts for 1st round draft pick..

One of the best things you can give a young QB is a strong running game. Richardson doesn't have the speed for big runs but there is still value in having a tough running game.
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:05 AM   #47
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Default Re: Trent Richardson traded to Colts for 1st round draft pick..

They are obviously in a race with Jacksonville to get Bridgewater in the draft.

And if they lose, the consolation prize is Clowney, which isn't bad at all.
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Default Re: Trent Richardson traded to Colts for 1st round draft pick..

The more that I think about this trade the more it upsets me...if this was FF the comish would step in and say "sorry, can't allow this"

the Colts now have the #1 and #3 overall picks from the 2012 draft
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The more that I think about this trade the more it upsets me...if this was FF the comish would step in and say "sorry, can't allow this"

the Colts now have the #1 and #3 overall picks from the 2012 draft
They gave up a first to get a first. And it's not like Richardson set the league on fire, he has been solid and given people reason to think he will have a good career but he's not a Pro Bowler. Seeing as the Browns don't think they will get anything done this season it's not an awful deal as of right now, though of course they could regret it in the future.
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They gave up a first to get a first. And it's not like Richardson set the league on fire, he has been solid and given people reason to think he will have a good career but he's not a Pro Bowler. Seeing as the Browns don't think they will get anything done this season it's not an awful deal as of right now, though of course they could regret it in the future.
they traded the #3 overall pick THAT THEY TRADED UP FOR...to get what looks to be a top 15-20ish pick

after ONE YEAR


Trent Richardson had the best rookie year for a RB in Brown's franchise HISTORY
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Cleveland gonna Cleveland.
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:25 PM   #52
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They gave up a first to get a first. And it's not like Richardson set the league on fire, he has been solid and given people reason to think he will have a good career but he's not a Pro Bowler. Seeing as the Browns don't think they will get anything done this season it's not an awful deal as of right now, though of course they could regret it in the future.

2012 4th pick
2012 4th rd pick
2012 5th rd pick
2012 7th rd pick

to get Trent Richardson who they in turn trade for

2013 first rd pick (Colts) which will be lower than where Browns initially drafted in 2012 before and after the trade. So how is the deal not awful again? Trent Richardson came out with the hype of being the best RB since Peterson. This wasnt something said by couch potatos. How after 17 games do you give up on this talent to take back a lesser valued pick?
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Old 09-19-2013, 03:57 PM   #53
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Default Re: Trent Richardson traded to Colts for 1st round draft pick..

The Browns fvcked up hard. Now, Richardson isn't Peterson but he's a damn good RB that they flipped after 1 year for a lesser pick than the one they took him with

I honestly think the Browns are cursed. That's how I knew RG3 was gonna ball his rookie year. Cleveland almost got him
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:34 PM   #54
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Default Re: Trent Richardson traded to Colts for 1st round draft pick..

Trent Richardson had zero passing game to work with. He's almost not super explosive so he doesn't get a ton of big gains which explains his low YPC.

But, he's a great fit for this team - he can block, catch and is a good short-medium yardage back. Indy would've had a pick in the teens; no guarantee that the player they would've gotten would've been better than Richardson or even good at all.
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Default Re: Trent Richardson traded to Colts for 1st round draft pick..

I'd guess we would pick in the 14-20 range, and dating back from 2007-2011....the picks from 14 to 20 have yielded:

5 complete busts
10 average NFL players

There were 35 total players selected in the 14-20 range from 2007-2011, therefor about 40 percent of them have been complete busts or just average, replaceable NFL players.

I'll say this, if the Browns hold onto the pick and don't trade it for Bridgewater..... their will be an excellent player available, it will be up to them to find that player and draft him....and not be in that 40 percentile that goofed up.
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For those saying the Browns did this one year after taking him No. 3 and trading up for him, I will remind you that this is a completely different front office and coaching staff. This group had nothing to do with the decision to take Richardson.

I'm shocked over this trade, but let's be honest about what really happened here. It could be that, from the moment Banner, Lombardi and Chud walked onto the scene, they didn't think much of TRich. Not saying that's the case, but it could be.
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Default Re: Trent Richardson traded to Colts for 1st round draft pick..

the Browns are going to have to use up a later draft pick on a RB now...because they have no RB...if they used the Colt's pick on a RB that would be absolutely preposterous so they are forced to address that later or in FA

Even if they didn't like Trent, at least him being on the team prevented them from having to address RB


Trent was a top-3 player on the Browns...along with Thomas and Haden
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For those saying the Browns did this one year after taking him No. 3 and trading up for him, I will remind you that this is a completely different front office and coaching staff. This group had nothing to do with the decision to take Richardson.

I'm shocked over this trade, but let's be honest about what really happened here. It could be that, from the moment Banner, Lombardi and Chud walked onto the scene, they didn't think much of TRich. Not saying that's the case, but it could be.

I totally get the new regime and what you said is very likely. But even still having an asset like Trent Richardson why wouldnt the new front office be mindful of his value and how much value they would lose by trading him? Browns werent the only team that coveted TRich in that draft.

Did Browns shop TRich around? I didnt hear anything. Seemed like they pulled the trigger fast.
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2012 4th pick
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to get Trent Richardson who they in turn trade for

2013 first rd pick (Colts) which will be lower than where Browns initially drafted in 2012 before and after the trade. So how is the deal not awful again? Trent Richardson came out with the hype of being the best RB since Peterson. This wasnt something said by couch potatos. How after 17 games do you give up on this talent to take back a lesser valued pick?
Looking at the history of what was invested it's a huge loss of value but I'm just looking at the one trade. If you don't believe in Richardson (and the new administration doesn't) then you won't try and make sure the deal justifies all you traded to get him, you're just cutting your losses.
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the Browns are going to have to use up a later draft pick on a RB now...because they have no RB...if they used the Colt's pick on a RB that would be absolutely preposterous so they are forced to address that later or in FA

Even if they didn't like Trent, at least him being on the team prevented them from having to address RB


Trent was a top-3 player on the Browns...along with Thomas and Haden

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I totally get the new regime and what you said is very likely. But even still having an asset like Trent Richardson why wouldnt the new front office be mindful of his value and how much value they would lose by trading him? Browns werent the only team that coveted TRich in that draft.

Did Browns shop TRich around? I didnt hear anything. Seemed like they pulled the trigger fast.

I think his value was the reason he was traded, pretty clearly. Haden may be the only other guy on the team who could yield a pick like that. Thomas is great, but probably too old to garner a first round pick.

Did you guys read the article I posted from CBS? If there is truth in that, the sentiment around the league was that the Colts gave up too much, not the other way around. I'm not sure if it's accurate, but it would harken back to my position pre-draft, which was that a RB is not worthy of a pick that high.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/...ner-for-browns

With all of that said, you can't imagine how much it sucks to have the white towel thrown in just two games into the season... Another season, lost. They're really testing our loyalty. Browns fans are very p!ssed today.

On the bright side, I love Todd Gurley as a prospect. Maybe he ends up a Brown afterall?

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