Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > Streetball Forum

Streetball Forum Streetball Message Board - street basketball and streetball forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-10-2013, 10:34 PM   #1
tgan3
Local High School Star
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,670
tgan3 has decent reputation
Default Height/Athleticism or Skill/Shooting?

The age old question, which do you think is more valuable honestly?
tgan3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2013, 11:18 PM   #2
mugiwara
High School Starter
 
mugiwara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 846
mugiwara is a pretty well-respected postermugiwara is a pretty well-respected postermugiwara is a pretty well-respected poster
Default Re: Height/Athleticism or Skill/Shooting?

I personally prefer watching slower, highly skilled players. Guys like Nash and pierce, you can really watch what they are doing and implement some things effectively into your own game. Or say watching a team of older guys who have been playing together for 15 odd years, watching how they move the ball and rarely miss the open shots they always manage to find.
mugiwara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2013, 12:55 AM   #3
mr beast
BEAST
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 263
mr beast has no real reputation yet.
Default Re: Height/Athleticism or Skill/Shooting?

if there's a choice, i would choose height/athleticism

#1 you cant train height

#2 athleticism can be trained but if you are born with it imagine how crazy you will get if you train it


skills/shooting can be trained and gained if you put in the work.



if it's just spectating a game, i agree with the above poster, i love watching teams with good skills and chemistry and their ball movement. it is pretty insane how efficient their offense are without the ball touching the floor
mr beast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2013, 01:01 AM   #4
bdreason
Game. Set. Match.
 
bdreason's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: HB, CA
Posts: 20,926
bdreason is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterbdreason is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterbdreason is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterbdreason is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterbdreason is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterbdreason is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterbdreason is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterbdreason is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterbdreason is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterbdreason is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterbdreason is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Height/Athleticism or Skill/Shooting?

Size is more dependable. Even good shooters by streetball standards don't shoot that high a %.

That said, I play the post, so I tend to look for a skilled guard who can pass/shoot to play a little two man game.
bdreason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2013, 08:09 AM   #5
NotYetGreat
Great college starter
 
NotYetGreat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,546
NotYetGreat has a terrific reputationNotYetGreat has a terrific reputationNotYetGreat has a terrific reputationNotYetGreat has a terrific reputationNotYetGreat has a terrific reputationNotYetGreat has a terrific reputation
Default Re: Height/Athleticism or Skill/Shooting?

As said, height and athleticism can't be taught (athleticism, well, to an extent can be trained, but is restrained due to genetic limitations), but at the same time, in a pool of players that are all equally athletic, skill and shooting is going to be the deciding factor. Athleticism can fade though. You can improve it, but after a certain period of time (i.e. aging), you're going to lose sizeable amounts of it, even with proper training. On the flipside, game skills can only get better if you do train them properly, so I'm going with that.
NotYetGreat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2013, 08:29 AM   #6
andremiller07
#QuincyAcy Fan
 
andremiller07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 6,721
andremiller07 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterandremiller07 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterandremiller07 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterandremiller07 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterandremiller07 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterandremiller07 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterandremiller07 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterandremiller07 is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Height/Athleticism or Skill/Shooting?

Height alone by itself gives you a massive edge if you want to play pro ball it dramatically increases your chances because unlike the rest of shorter people 5'8-6'0 (which most people are) at 6'6+ you don't have to be elite like you would being a shorter person, topped of with athletic ability which is a insane advantage to him you can literally see tons of guys make it at the highest level due to both these gifts.

But personally I do prefer skill/shooting but yeah if I could go back in time and choose which I would want 100% height/athletic ability.
andremiller07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2013, 09:40 AM   #7
Snoop_Cat
Banned
 
Snoop_Cat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Johns Hopkins
Posts: 3,498
Snoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Height/Athleticism or Skill/Shooting?

In a pick up atmosphere, most definitely HEIGHT. When I play pick up, most people are typically in like 5'6" to 6'1" range more or less. When you have a big guy on your team 6'5"/6'6"+, that is a huge advantage as far as getting boards, dumping it down low, defense, etc goes.

Athleticism is nice and all but if you play with a team that is good on help defense and calling out picks and stuff, it can be mitigated. Height sometimes, just can't be beat sometimes if your team is short and the guy is skilled in the post.
Snoop_Cat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2013, 05:40 AM   #8
tgan3
Local High School Star
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,670
tgan3 has decent reputation
Default Re: Height/Athleticism or Skill/Shooting?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snoop_Cat
In a pick up atmosphere, most definitely HEIGHT. When I play pick up, most people are typically in like 5'6" to 6'1" range more or less. When you have a big guy on your team 6'5"/6'6"+, that is a huge advantage as far as getting boards, dumping it down low, defense, etc goes.

Athleticism is nice and all but if you play with a team that is good on help defense and calling out picks and stuff, it can be mitigated. Height sometimes, just can't be beat sometimes if your team is short and the guy is skilled in the post.

im 5'9. Ive played with 6'6 guys and they have shit handles and move so slow. Maybe the talent of big man in my area sucks but I totally decimate these kind of guys with my handling, shooting and speed.

Now if they were 6'6 and possess athleticism, that's a different story. But none in my area. The athletic guys are 6'1 and below here.
tgan3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2013, 12:14 PM   #9
Snoop_Cat
Banned
 
Snoop_Cat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Johns Hopkins
Posts: 3,498
Snoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSnoop_Cat is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Height/Athleticism or Skill/Shooting?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tgan3
im 5'9. Ive played with 6'6 guys and they have shit handles and move so slow. Maybe the talent of big man in my area sucks but I totally decimate these kind of guys with my handling, shooting and speed.

Now if they were 6'6 and possess athleticism, that's a different story. But none in my area. The athletic guys are 6'1 and below here.

Most likely your area (or mine). The court that I go to, there's usually a few big guys (6' 4/5" -ish) who, while not the quickest have the necessary big guy attributes. Strong, can anchor, reaction time, etc. One of my good friends is 6'5" and fairly large; when the other team's center is like 6'2" and weights that much less, it makes such a big difference, at least when I play
Snoop_Cat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2013, 03:55 PM   #10
D.J.
College superstar
 
D.J.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Astoria, NY
Posts: 4,961
D.J. has a terrific reputationD.J. has a terrific reputationD.J. has a terrific reputationD.J. has a terrific reputationD.J. has a terrific reputation
Default Re: Height/Athleticism or Skill/Shooting?

Height/athleticism, because those can't be taught. You can teach anyone basic skills, but someone who's tall and athletic is at a huge advantage. The problem for the really tall is they're generally not good ball handlers because they dribble the ball higher off the ground. I'm 6'8" and while I had solid handles for a guy my size(I'm 35 now), it's much harder because I dribble higher due to my height. Not to mention smaller defenders are more agile and quicker on their feet. This is why I drifted to the 3. I'd handle the ball if ncessary, but it was in my best interest to be swingman since I was much more athletic than other guys my size.
D.J. is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:27 AM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site















Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy