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Old 09-22-2013, 05:02 AM   #1
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Default Can anyone point to a real news site that claims 70% of Syrians support Assad?

That's a claim that's been made on this forum several times in the past month and the only support I can find for the claim is WorldTribune.com, a right-wing Moonie Website out of Virginia that post stuff like this

Forensic findings on Obamaís birth certificate: ĎA 100 percent forgery, no doubt about ití

Or this from 2005 that claimed the US was making steady progress in Iraq. This is still listed today on their website as one of their greatest hits.

Media's coverage has distorted world's view of Iraqi reality

There a shitton of sites/blogs that point back to this, but no real news sites, except for the news service of the Iranian government.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:31 AM   #2
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Why do you want war so badly bruh? Why are you so eager to follow Obamanation to the eve of destruction?
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:41 AM   #3
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Default Re: Can anyone point to a real news site that claims 70% of Syrians support Assad?

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Why do you want war so badly bruh? Why are you so eager to follow Obamanation to the eve of destruction?

Irrelevant to the topic. Dumb post.


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That's a claim that's been made on this forum several times in the past month and the only support I can find for the claim is WorldTribune.com, a right-wing Moonie Website out of Virginia that post stuff like this

Forensic findings on Obama’s birth certificate: ‘A 100 percent forgery, no doubt about it’

Or this from 2005 that claimed the US was making steady progress in Iraq. This is still listed today on their website as one of their greatest hits.

Media's coverage has distorted world's view of Iraqi reality

There a shitton of sites/blogs that point back to this, but no real news sites, except for the news service of the Iranian government.


I'm wondering the same thing. The worldtribune thing is a "NATO study" with no references, sources or anything. So it looks like there's simply not a lot of data available. Personally, I'd speculate that there is more support for Assad than people believe, but for other reasons. Don't see Syrians being all happy because he's such a great gut, but in light of the alternatives it's at least something stable.

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Old 09-22-2013, 05:44 AM   #4
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Default Re: Can anyone point to a real news site that claims 70% of Syrians support Assad?

The source for the 70% in the article above doesn't even refer to polling. It says it was data given to NATO.

There's another claim that does actually refer to a real poll, it was from a columnist in the Guardian. He referred to a poll from December 2011 that said 55% of Syrians did not want Assad to step down. December 2011 is after the escalation of the civil war started, in particular there was heavy fighting involving tanks in Homs, Syria 3rd largest city.

So there's a couple of problems with this 55% number.

Number 1 is it doesn't translate to support for Assad. It was more about fear of a big civil war...kind of like the one that has happened for the for nearly two years since that poll.
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regarding the future of the country rather than support as they do not want to see Syria become another Iraq

The second reason is that while the poll consisted of 1000 people which is a reasonable sample size and it was a conducted by YouGov, who have done very good polling in US elections, don't know how they do overseas, but they are legit. They picked Obama to get 51.1% of the vote and he got 51.07%...which if you round it up is dead on the money.

However, this was not a poll of 1000 Syrians. It was 1000 people across
across the Arab World. It turns out there were only 97 Syrians in the poll, so it's a pretty small sample size with I think an accuracy of plus or minus 10%.

The one thing we can say definitely is that Assad is more popular in Syria that in the Arab World in general where 81% wanted him to step down.

So I think the true answer is we have no idea how many Syrians support Assad and I'm not sure there are any recent numbers.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:50 AM   #5
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Default Re: Can anyone point to a real news site that claims 70% of Syrians support Assad?

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Why do you want war so badly bruh? Why are you so eager to follow Obamanation to the eve of destruction?

I don't want war. I just think you're happily willing to post nonsense if it backs up your point.


In fact, I'd be really happy if the plan to take out Assad's chemical weapons works.

I'd also be happy if Syria's recent call for a ceasefire led to something (Pssst. Assad is not winning this war.)

I would also like if Iran's proposal to give up nuclear weapons was truthful.

It's going to be an interesting week at the UN.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:54 AM   #6
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Kevin what do you do for a living?
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:17 AM   #8
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Default Re: Can anyone point to a real news site that claims 70% of Syrians support Assad?

Can anyone point to statistics on how many americans support obama?



http://www.businessinsider.com/obama...cy-poll-2013-8
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:21 AM   #9
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can someone post a good porn site i mean im sick of the same old tiring bullshit
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:55 PM   #10
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:05 PM   #11
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Who the hell cares what the Syrians like or don't like? That's their problem. Leave the world out of it.
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Didn't see that one coming. But sounds.. interesting.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:35 PM   #13
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Iraqis loved Saddam, but Syrians hate Assad and want the US to bomb the shit out of their country.

KevinNYC logic. Classic retardation case
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:09 PM   #14
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Iraqis loved Saddam, but Syrians hate Assad and want the US to bomb the shit out of their country.

Iraqis loved Saddam?? I said this when?

but Syrians hate Assad Again not something I said.

But something that is obviously true of a certain percentage of Syrians. And I'm curious as to what that percentage is.

There's obviously a bunch that does hate Assad, so much so that they took up arms against Assad or defected from his army and a civil war broke out that has killed 100,0000 people so far.

Let's repeat that a civil in Syria has taken over 100,000 lives over the past two and a half years in a situation the US did not create.

If you want to pretend that Syria in 2013 at war is the same as Iraq in 2003 before the US invaded that's on you, but don't pretend no bombs are going off in Syria










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Old 09-22-2013, 09:18 PM   #15
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Default Re: Can anyone point to a real news site that claims 70% of Syrians support Assad?

The bigger-meta-point I want to make is you can oppose intervention in Syria, you can oppose drawing a line on chemical weapons, etc, etc with spouting Assad's propaganda.
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