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Old 10-25-2013, 05:07 PM   #16
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They didn't throw it in Swann's day the way they do today, so comparisons like that aren't fair. Anyway what got Swann in was Superbowls.
eh...Steve Largent, who is also a HOFer, played during the same era as Swann...he has 13k+ receiving yards...Swann has 5k
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Lynn Swann is probably one of the least deserving HOFers though...along with Namath and Sayers
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Old 10-25-2013, 05:08 PM   #18
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If Smith gets in, you have to put in Wayne, Boldin, Fitz, Andre....maybe even Welker? On top of the guys like TO, Moss, Calvin who will most likely make it.

Plus we still have Brown, Reed, Harrison & Bruce as contenders to get into the HOF.

Too many people in front of Smith for him to have any real chance. Their aren't many WR's in the HOF....and only five of them are guys who ended their careers since 1993.

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Old 10-25-2013, 05:10 PM   #19
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eh...Steve Largent, who is also a HOFer, played during the same era as Swann...he has 13k+ receiving yards...Swann has 5k
Again, Swann is in the Hall because of SB performances. The voters didn't care as much about his stats because those Steeler teams were all about running the ball. They were nothing like the passing teams we see today and the voters that put him in were more impressed by winning than anything else. If you just looked at Terry Bradshaw's numbers and forgot about the winning you'd probably think he sucked.
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yeah I said it was all about rings in my first post about Swann, just letting you know some teams passed
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yeah I said it was all about rings in my first post about Swann, just letting you know some teams passed
Not like we see today though. Check this career percentage list. And then look at how the passing yardage leader trends downwards as we go back in time. The modern NFL has better passing attacks, pass-friendly rule changes, and more passing that the NFL of Swann's day.
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Not like we see today though. Check this career percentage list. And then look at how the passing yardage leader trends downwards as we go back in time. The modern NFL has better passing attacks, pass-friendly rule changes, and more passing that the NFL of Swann's day.
yeah, I know that is very true...I was just pointing out there were WRs then that were putting up decent numbers
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I wonder what Swanns stats were in relation to his peers and people that came before him when he retired.
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Old 10-25-2013, 07:19 PM   #24
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Lynn Swann is probably one of the least deserving HOFers though...along with Namath and Sayers
4 superbowls as an important notable player = HOF worthy
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I know Smith is a great player, I still believed in him as an elite wideout the couple seasons before Cam got their when pretty much everyone wrote him off as a declining player.

You don't need to go into the type of player Smith is, I know what he was/is..... but he's not a HOF wideout.

He's 29th on the current Receptions list. Best case scenario he finishes top 10 when he retires.

24th on yards, best case he ends up top 10.

T42nd in touchdowns, best case he ends up top 20.

Tim Brown was top 3 in all major stat categories when he retired I believe and he still can't get in. It took Carter numerous times to get in and he was 4th, 2nd and 2nd in the three major stats when he retired.

Smith is going to be lucky to end up top 10 in two categories and top 20 in another. He's not going to make it.
in terms of peak ability he's a hof talent can you admit that
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in terms of peak ability he's a hof talent can you admit that
Sure, but that not enough to get into Canton
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That's a poor analogy though bro.
When Cris Carter & Tim Brown were nominated; there were FAR less competition.

Smith on a per game basis has better numbers than Tim Brown.

You asked if people think Smith is a HOFer and every person who has responded said no. If there is one thing to know about dudes like Carbine and Ptiddy, its that you wont change their minds by arguing with them.

Anyway, Steve Smith is most definitely not going to the HOF.

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I change my mind after reading rhythmics posts and thinking about it

Steve Smith is a HOFer
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Steve Smith is also a terrific playoff performer, unfortunately, being stuck on Carolina his entire career, he rarely had the chance to play during the post season.

Cowboys: 5 rec., 135 yards, 1 TD
Rams: 6 rec., 163 yards, 1 TD
Eagles: 3 rec. 26 yards
Patriots: 4 rec, 80 yards, 1 TD
Giants: 10 rec, 84 yards, 1 TD
Bears: 12 rec, 218 yards, 2 TD
Seahawks: 5 rec, 33 yards
Cardinals: 2 rec, 43 yards, 1 TD

So in 8 total games, 3 post-seasons; he was a big part of leading his team to the superbowl and the conference finals game (both times as underdogs). As you can see, his performance was outstanding.

5.88 receptions, 98 yards, 0.88 TDs per game.
Terrific numbers, he has always elevated his game in the playoffs.
As heavy underdogs against the Rams and Bears, look at what he did to help his team win.

You guys are severely underrating his career.
****, he never even had a Qb of Stafford's caliber...Delhomme, Newton and for a few seasons Buerlein? Ouch.
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