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Old 11-30-2013, 02:43 AM   #256
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The Suns effective field goal % in the first half was 71%. The means if they had shot only twos the equivalent was making 71%. That is insane.

Jazz were leading 11-6 when Trey Burke picked up his second foul. Burke was being manhandled by Goran Dragic. Has to be an eye opener to the rookie point guard that a guy who is not on anyoneís all world list is that hard to guard. Dragic is on fire averaging 25 a game over the last 5 shooting over 50% and in the first 5 minutes he was 3 for 3 with 9 points and had Burke out of the game. Dragic went at Burke 4 straight possessions scored on all of them and drew those two fouls.

Bring him off the bench until he proves he is ready. Start Garrett!

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Marvin Williams was fantastic in the first half. He is burying the above the break three at over 50% and he is driving to the lane. He has been the king of efficient shots. He had 14 points and lead the team with 3 rebounds in the first half.

Trey Burke began to show what he can do in the 3rd quarter tonight. He took 8 shots hit on 4 of them and and had 9 points. He didnít have an assist but he also didnít have a turnover. He will find a way to get his teammates involved and the more he makes plays the more teams will have to adjust to him and that will give him the chance to make plays

Jazz cut it to 12 and Gordon Hayward had a right side three that would have cut it to 9 and ignited the crowd. It swirled out and the Jazz never had another shot to get back in the game. Those are the shots that have to fall and get the Jazz to have that momentum into a key portion of the game.

Interesting to see if the Jazz can make defensive improvements on the pick and roll. The Suns seemed to know where to go and how to hit plays a step before the Jazz made the rotation they needed to make. Gordon got caught a step late coming over to help on Plumlee on three or four straight plays at one point in the game. At the top of the pick and roll the Jazz big is hoping to slow down the guard enough so the Jazz guard can get off the pick and get back to the ball handler then allowing the Jazz big to release back to his man. That has not been tight enough. Sidney Lowe told me at halftime that the Jazz point guard has to get up on the body of the ball handler so he can stay attached through the pick and roll.

Nice to see Brandon Rush play and play without the brace.

Now if he can take minutes from Jefferson!

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Alec Burks had the game that he has had all year Ė 4 pts on 1 of 3 shooting through 3 quarters and then he got going in the 4th quarter going 4 for 9 with 12 points, 5 of those coming in the final 5 minutes. Hopefully some of this 4th quarter success can get him going earlier in games. The Jazz really need him to play well.

Same time, same teams Ė lets see how tomorrow plays out.
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Trey Burke picked up two early fouls, resulting in a 17-minute stretch for John Lucas III in the first half.

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* Center Rudy Gobert was the lone Jazz player on the active roster who did not play.

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* With the Golden State Warriors falling Friday, the Jazz would currently possess two lottery picks if the season ended today.

That would be quite a trade if it ended up in the lottery!
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Andris Biedrins got his first minutes of Jazz action tonight, and looked very Biedrins-y: he didnít touch the ball in over 4 minutes of play, but set decent screens and got around to block the ballhandler on a pick and roll, a rarity for a Jazz big man. Biedrins shouldnít play anything other than small minutes, lets be clear, but he presents an interesting contrast for the Jazz as a big man who sets screens well and plays good defense most of the time. Mostly, his limited skills put the flaws of the others in sharp relief.

Gobert is limited at the other end too but you can send him down to get minutes. Biedrins can help when they need to play bigger.
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The disparity at point guard is one big area of concern on the defensive end for the Jazz. Burke started the game really well, but two early fouls forced him to the bench. The Suns' point guard combo of Goran Dragic and Eric Bledsoe carved up the Jazz defense.

Dragic ended the night with 19 points and nine assists on 12 shots. Bledsoe ended the night with 19 points, six rebounds and three steals.

Stopping the point guard, doing better in transition and playing a stronger brand of defense will be key now that the Jazz have a full set of tools.
Burke started well as long as you ignore the fact he had no answer for Dragic on the pick and roll. Than they bring in Lucas against the much bigger pg instead of sending Garrett and Burks at their stronger pg's.

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Now Corbin will have to show what he can do, so will the players, but he has just one day to fix a lot of problems on the road.

Everyone is available. Not going to have the that excuse much longer as they get back into shape.
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Kanter started off the season dominating offensively. I donít think thatís too strong a term for a twenty-one year old center averaging 18.6 points per game on 55% shooting from the field and 88% from the line. Five games into the season, the Turk looked like a favorite for the Most Improved Player Award ó and primary post scorer for the Jazz this season.

Since that time, Derrick Favors has outplayed Kanter in practically all aspects of the game. Some may be surprised, even angry, at Coach Corbinís decision to move Kanter to the bench. If so, they probably havenít looked at the numbers in the last ten games both Favors and Kanter shared the court.

Enes Kanter, once seen as a superhuman rebounding machine, was outrebounded by Favors in all ten games. Worse, he was nearly doubled up in the category, 5.9 rebounds for Kanter to 10.1 for Favors. For a player as strong as Kanter, who grabbed 18.3% of available boards as a rookie, 5.9 rebounds a game while playing 30.4 minutes simply isnít good enough. Not close.

The rebounding is certainly puzzling.

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But what is more startling, in regard to both players, are their offensive numbers during this stretch. Favors, who has so often been characterized as offensively deficient, averaged 14.1 points on 50% from the field. In the same span, Kanter produced 11.4 points on 47% shooting. Not only do the averages recommend Favors, but so too does consistency. Of those ten games, Favors outscored his front court colleague in seven.

In this ten-game span, Favors did play several more minutes per game, but their shots attempts were very similar (11.2 FGA/G for Favors to 10.5 FGA/G for Kanter). Favors produced 1.26 points per shot to Kanterís 1.09 and earned an offensive rating of 101 points produced per 100 possessions to Kanterís 92. Recently, the defender has been the clearly superior offensive option.

Which starts to mean a lot more when the rest of the game is taken into account. As expected, Favors was the far better defensive player in this stretch, adding 1.7 steals and 1.5 blocks to his just over ten rebounds a game. His 105 DRtg isnít great by his standards, but itís heads and tails above the 113 Kanter earned over the same stretch.


They are giving him 12 million plus a ear based on his supposed great D though. A double double without dominating D isn't worth 12 million + a year.

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And for good measure, throw in Favorsí 40% higher assists percentage over the span.

Combine both sides of the floor (points produced and allowed) in the ten games preceding Kanterís injury, and Favors gave the Jazz a huge +17 point advantage per 100 possessions over Enes Kanter.

Itís far too early to take a ten-game trend and project the future of twenty-two and twenty-one year old players. All Kanterís offensive potential and polish remain intact, as does his elite strength. Itís natural that such a young player should struggle at times when asked to play double the minutes he played per night the previous season, as Kanter has. He will gather himself and, with more time to adjust to his role and improve his stamina, I expect both his offensive efficiency and rebounding to start trending upward once more.

But that doesnít mean Favors steady progress should be ignored. His 16.5 PER (the only major Jazz contributor to boast a figure above the league average 15) names him the Jazzís best player through the first 20% of the season. Yet his numbers of 13 points, 9.9 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 1.5 steals, and 1.4 blocks are really just okay, given his ability. 48% from the field? Yeah, okay. 61% from the free throw line? Not okay in the least, as he has the form of a 70% shooter already.

Derrick Favors has been the Jazzís best overall player, and recently their best offensive post option, and he hasnít really started playing well yet.

What does this mean? Hopefully, the coaching staff will game plan to get Favors the ball earlier and more often on offense, which theyíve yet to do. Including the Nov. 29th home loss against the Suns, Favors has taken fewer than ten shots in five consecutive games (eight per game). This is in spite of earning five attempts from the line per night and shooting 68% from the stripe in that span. And while Favors only averages 11.8 points per game in the last five games, heís doing so at a very efficient 1.48 points per shot. To put that in perspective, given the 11.2 shots per game Trey Burke is already hoisting, Favors would produce 16.6 points per game at his recent clip. Burke is producing 9.4.

Favors shooting % doesn't say get him the ball more. Burke certainly should be on the bench though not starting and thinking he's the number one option.

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As the teamís best all-around player and most consistent post option, Derrick Favors needs to be a greater focal point of the offense. Doing so will not only benefit the Jazz on the offensive end but in all aspects of the game, because the more involved Favors is on offense, the better his overall production. In the five games this season where he took 12 or more shots, heís averaging 18.5 points, 12.5 rebounds (including 8.5 on the defensive glass), two steals, and two blocks while shooting 58% from the floor. Heís even turning the ball over at a lower rate, two a game to his season normal two and a half.

As for Kanter, my hope is he goes back to the approach that worked so well early on in the season: opportunistic scoring. Crash the offensive glass, cut to the rim, run the floor, take the wide open jumper when itís there. If the Jazz offense can simply be respectable, Kanter can score well into the teens every night just taking what the defense gives him through his diversity and hustle. To get that consistently respectable offense, I marshal the dulcet tones of Christopher Walken as I say: ďI gotta have more Favors!Ē

Favors should be better at this point. Kanter is less experienced and coming off an injury that kept him out all of the off-season. The problem I have is that they let Millsap go to start Kanter and now Marvin is starting. Hopefully Marvin is making himself tradeable. I'm worried that they bring him back next year on a multi year deal and he's back to the shitty player he was last year.
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:09 AM   #261
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EMPTYING THE NOGGIN Ė Road win for Jazz in Phoenix

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Gerald Green hits back to back three point shots on defensive breakdowns and the game was tied at 86 with 7:00 to play. Tyrone Corbin called timeout. He subbed out Kanter and Evans and subbed in Marvin Williams and Derrick Favors. For the first time ever the Jazz went to a defense where they switched everything . It changed the game. The Suns got dislodged from what they wanted to run. The pick and roll was no longer an option other than to create mismatches that didnít turn out to be mismatches. The key to this defense is Marvin and Favors can make the switch or moreover that the Jazz have instituted a system that keeps Favors closer to the rim. Dragic who was killing the Jazz didnít score for the next 6:30 off the game.
Offensively, the Jazz have been much better since playing the smaller line-up with Marvin Williams and Jeremy Evans as the power forwards.

So Kanter needs to go?

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The 4th quarter tonight the Jazz shot 65% hit 4 of 5 from three and nailed 8 of 10 from the line. That is an offensive efficiency 145. The Jazz were strong offensively all night. They were 125 in the 1st quarter, 106 in the 2nd, 134 in the 3rd and 145 in the 4th. By far the best offensive performance of the season.

Down the stretch on the road this team held it together. Having a point guard helps.

Having a couple might really make a difference. Garrett played instead of Lucas finally. Wasn't great but maybe cuz he hadn't played in the past couple.

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The coaching staff made nice adjustments to what they saw the night before and found a way to exploit where the Suns had weaknesses. Defensively in the first quarter the rotations were great. They were much quicker, they pre rotated much better than the night before.

Ty must go!

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Trey Burke is not scared. Wow. The dude comes off the bench and pulls on a 3 to make it a 6 point game with 3:40 left, then clinches it with 1:13 left on another 3. Burke lead the Jazz with 20 and took 4 free throw attempts. He is not getting to the line at all on his drives right now and he needs to add that.

Burke was a thief in college and he is the NBA as well. He cut off two fast breaks tonight in the open court with roundball robbery.

He's not scared or he's a gunner? Don't really like that he is taking the most shots on the team when he's still not shown he's a great shooter.

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The Jazz are 2-2 with Trey and Marvin in the starting line-up. Jeremy Evans has been a big part of the Jazz last few games and he did it again tonight with a 12 point 3 rebound performance. He hit a nice baseline jumper and a tough look outside jumper where he elevated over the defense. He needs to add the three point shot at some point. It might be hard since he is such a jumper.

Can get by without a 3. Jazz did for a long time.

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ALEC BURKS!!!!!! He just played tonight. He had fun. He had a bounce. He was terrific. He drove to the basket. He nailed an outside shot or two. That is the game he can play. That is what is so maddening when it doesnít appear. Ty let him role tonight as well he played two 16 minute stretches and finished with 32 minutes, 13 points, 3 rebounds and 5 assists. One of the assists was an awesome out of the timeout set play bounce pass to JE.
The Suns only had 13 fast break points tonight and shot just 5 of 11 on fast break chances. The Jazz did a far better job getting back in transition.
Diante Garrettís length was a factor tonight. He gets in passing lanes and is able to defend. Length matters

It certainly would have been nice in the previous game when Burke and Lucas were getting killed.

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This was a really nice night for the team and the coaching staff. For the Jazz to be as poor defensively as they were on Friday and then play this well on Saturday letís the players know if they do it right it can work. Also the coaching staff did a lot of things that will gain confidence from the players. It is a two way street. Letting Alec roll when he was playing well, going to the switching defense, the offensive tweeks all go a long way in moving this group forward.

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Veterans John Lucas III, Andris Biedrins and Brandon Rush did not play. Rookie center Rudy Gobert had his second consecutive DNP-CD.

Wouldn't Gobert be better off playing big minutes in the D-league and working on his offensive game?

O'Conner didn't like the D-league. I thought it might be different with Lindsey coming from SA who is one of the best at taking advantage of it.

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But he wasnít aware of a stat thatís pretty odd for a Jazz point guard. Through his first six pro games, the 6-1 playmaker was averaging more rebounds (3.5 rpg) than assists (3.0 rpg).

ďI didnít know that. Yeah, thatís a little strange for me,Ē Burke said, chuckling. ďUsually Iím the type of guy that has more assists than rebounds.Ē

In college, Burke averaged 16.9 points, 5.7 assists and 3.3 boards during two seasons at Michigan.

Burke anticipates his assist numbers will climb as he becomes more comfortable with the Jazz offense and his new teammates.

ďI think that just comes with the rhythm, the flow and the chemistry with everybody else,Ē Burke said. ďMe being in a brand-new system, trying to figure out everybody elseís position, where guys are supposed to be, when to attack, when to set guys up, I think thatís all just a feel for the game that Iím continuing to get better at.Ē

Hard to get assists when you're always shooting! He looked pretty good today though. See if he can keep it up.
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The kid was really special tonight. I delayed writing this for a moment because I donít want to be too over the top about Trey.


Why not? Everyone has been all along. Today he finally looked like he might deserve some of that talk.

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Both the Rockets broadcaster after the game told me how impressed they were with Trey. He is legit. He has the it factor.

We'll see. Let's see how he does against the top defenses especially when the scouting report gets out on him and he has to adjust.

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He isnít afraid and more than that he wants to make the great play. The drive over Howard tonight was absurd. He changes everything about this team and he changes everything for the other players on the team.
May I temper the enthusiasm for a quick moment. This was a great match-up with two very small point guards. The scouting report is not out on him yet. Teams will start to react. Teams will start playing bigger players on him. Teams will start to tax him defensively and he will go though some struggles. The road is not going to be without some bumps. With all of that said what we have seen in his opening few games tells us he is a special kid and he has a very bright future.

Maybe? Everyone thought all the Jazz's young guys had bright futures and right now they've all got a lot to prove still. Looks like they ought to field offers for Kanter if he's not going to play.

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Jazz are 3-2 with Trey starting. He has 1 turnover in 89 minutes

Tyrone Corbin kept telling us and telling us that what they were asking Alec Burks to do was unfair. That putting the ball in his hand was not his strength and got him out of his game. The last two nights when playing with Trey he was able to attack the basket, play in a rhythm, play without the ball and he was terrific on the offensive end. He still made three or four defensive plays that have to drive coaches insane. Plays that were the complete opposite of the game plan from shootaround. That will get better as he matures and if he plays like this on offense the coaches will be able to deal with those a little more than otherwise.

Gordon Hayward got going tonight. The Rockets wanted to hide James Harden on Richard Jefferson and when they couldnít do that Hayward killed Harden and had 19 points in the first quarter. Hayward got matched against arguably the worst defensive player in the NBA and took advantage. That is huge to get him back on track. This was the night he needed and gives him the confidence to get out of the next slump.

Worth taking a look to see how many of Haywardís field goals were assisted. You can do it on the nba.com box scores. That is awesome.

Who had a bigger impact on the game tonight Derrick Favors or Dwight Howard? I didnít think Howard had that big an impact and I know Favors was a better offensive player tonight.

Should have gotten him the ball more!

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The Rockets didnít hit a three in the third quarter.

Game was tied at 86 the exact same as the other night in Phoenix and for the second straight game the Jazz out played a good team to close out with a win. 23-17 to close over the final 8:00. With 6:00 left Corbin went to the closing five of Burke, Burks, Hayward, Marvin and Favors. Trey missed back to back shots and the Jazz looked like they might be in trouble. Then Favors hot a huge offensive rebound, then Jazz got two more offensive rebounds on the next possession by Favors and Marvin, and it lead to a Favors layup on a sick give from Burke. Burke then hit the driving layup over Howard. The key play came when Harden threw a pass to Casppi that he wasnít ready for and Marvin stole it for a dunk. Jazz by 5. Burks hit another driving layup. To keep it at 5 with 1:38 left and Marvin clinched on a gorgeous three after hawyard gave up a three after Burke had kept his dribble alive to make the play.

Clutch play late.

These wins are huge. They are still going to be hard to come by this year but these push this team forward and help them enjoy playing the game. They had lost that for a while.

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There are times when Hayward looks like the kind of crafty, almost Manu-esque scorer that could conceivably lead an offense. In fact, that might be an ideal role for him in an eventual contender: coming off the bench to feast upon poor defenses the way he torched Hardenís poor efforts tonight.

It might be. He's played some of his best ball coming off the bench. It's why they will probably have to let him go because he's going to get too much money for the role he is suited for.
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Aaron Falk: Marvin Williams has a sore right heel and won't practice. Same heel he had surgery on over the summer. Game-time decision tomorrow. Twitter @tribjazz

Here we go! Time for excuses. He didn't play as well last game. Ty needs to go to Evans or Kanter when he's not playing well. Same with Jefferson. Give Rush another look. Eventually he needs to get minutes.
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Aaron Falk: Marvin Williams has a sore right heel and won't practice. Same heel he had surgery on over the summer. Game-time decision tomorrow. Twitter @tribjazz

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Jody Genessy: Marvin Williams said the soreness is in his right heel, not his surgically repaired Achilles' tendon. He's encouraged by that. Twitter @DJJazzyJody
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What'd you think of the all-young lineup today, Xiao?

I hope David Locke'll provide the +/- for the lineup of Burke-Burks-Hayward-Kanter-Favors.
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Good to see after watching Enes and Burks both languish on the bench. They're showing some potential and hope.
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