Point guard, unquestionably, is the most difficult position for a rookie to learn. So patience has been high with Burke. “Huge responsibility on both ends of the floor,” Corbin said. “You usually start and finish on plays and you have to be ready to go the entire time. There’s really no breaks because you have to engineer or get your guys on the offensive end set to get into plays. Defensively, you have to try and stop or [hinder] some of those plays being run by the other team. “It’s a difficult spot for him, but he’s shown that he’s capable of handling the load and he’ll continue to grow.” Boston Globe
Bad night for the Jazz. Bad match-up for the Jazz. Minnesota and Cleveland are similar they are bad fast break defensive teams, who don’t defend the paint or the restricted area well. The Jazz are not capable of taking advantage of those areas and in turn Minnesota and Cleveland suddenly look much better than they are and we look worse than we are.
Jazz hit on 14 of 29 from three, 11 of 25 in the paint and 3 and 26 from mid range. This is somewhat how Cleveland defends. They are one of the teams last in the NBA at preventing three point shots. So what do you do? The Jazz were getting three’s and hitting them. Then they went away from it because at some point you have to get into the paint or are you playing into there hands? The Jazz went 6 of 7 in the first quarter from three and then in the 2nd went 2 of 6 and in the third they were 3 of 6 again before falling to 3 of 10 in the 4th. But the real issue is the Jazz didn’t make their 2’s or their paint shots. In the 2nd quarter they were 2 of 7 in the paint (1 of 7 at mid-range) in the 3rd the Jazz were 4 for 8 in the paint (0 for 7 mid range) and the 4th quarter the Jazz were 2 of 5 in paint (1 for 5 on mid-range)
Gordon Hayward had another strong game and opened it by hitting 3 three balls in the 1st quarter. He added 7 rebounds and 7 assists to his 18 points. He also added 2 steals and 2 blocks.
He's always finished strong so hopefully this is the start.
Trey Burke’s no free throw streak continued. He has taken 4 free throws (2 techs and 1 foul on a defensive rebound) in 488 minutes . He averaged 5 a game in college.
In the first half the Cavs were 5 of 15 in the paint when Favors was in the game and 5 for 8 when he was on the bench but the opening of the 3rd quarter the Jazz didn’t put up any defensive resistance.
Jazz are a very slow paced team. They had some early opportunities in the first half but then slowed to a halt as the game went on and the offense in the half court left also.
Guess that goes back to Jerry? A young team should be pushing it.
The bench unit had a very poor 2nd quarter.
Kyrie Irving is really good. Jazz dealt with him well in the first half. He was 2 for 8 and feeding others rather than getting himself going but that all feel apart in the 3rd quarter similar to the game in Utah
The cavaliers fronted the post after the 1st quarter when Favors got deep position on some postups and the Jazz couldn’t take advantage. They tried to go high low, they tried to swing it but it never materialized.
Alec played a little point, Kanter and Favors played together. Corbin tried a little bit of everything and none of it worked.
Burks left side mid range shooting is an issue for him.
Brandon Rush was disengaged in his first appearance in a few games and got pulled quickly
Be great if he got it going before the season ended.
Poor night. It doesn’t get any easier with the vaunted Indiana defense next.
The Jazz have increased their 3-point shooting, but (as the graph below shows) they have not increased their accuracy. However, even with this drop in shooting percentage, the Jazz are still getting the same amount of points per shot from 2s and 3s. The Jazz are receiving .99 points per shot on 3-pointers and .99 points per shot off their 49.7% 2-pointer shooting.
Jazz 3 pt usageUtah’s offense in the month of February is 15th in the NBA. In December, when they shot 39% from 3-point range but only used 22% of their possessions on threes, they were 23rd offensively.
Myers, the attempted superhero achieving the physically impossible, went around the league. He called (or text messaged) each team’s GM: was there anybody willing to take on $24 million? Naturally, not many teams were: $24 million represents nearly half of a team’s salary cap. The team would have to be in a unique position to be even able to take on that much salary, especially in the forms of Andris Biedrins and Richard Jefferson, two players who gave the Warriors very little on the court.
Worse, the teams that were able to make a move became suspicious of Golden State’s intentions: were they doing this because they knew they could sign Dwight Howard? Myers pleaded innocent, promising that his team merely wanted Iguodala, but it was of little use. Teams demanded 4, even 5 1st round draft picks as compensation for the salary. GMs, again, thought they could fleece Myers in his time of desperation. It wouldn’t work.
But Myers was desperate. The Warriors’ brain trust had now mentally pictured Iguodala on their team, and correctly saw him as a perfect fit. Myers couldn’t sleep, the deal yet to be done floating in his head. Pelinka, with limited time for his free agent to work on the open market, set a deadline for noon the following day. If Myers couldn’t solve his cap problems by then, the deal was off.
Myers again scoured the league, calling the teams that had even shown vague interest at the time of his initial call. Utah had been one of those teams, but wasn’t seriously interested without more incentive. But on the morning before the deadline, Myers played his last card: adding the maximum $3.2 million in cash allowed by the CBA.
Surprisingly, the new extra bait worked: Utah had just sent $3.2 million dollars to Denver for the rights to Rudy Gobert, the #27 pick, and was eager to get its money back. Getting the maximum amount in cash was like adding another late 1st round pick, and meant something substantial to the Jazz: essentially, they felt confident that $3.2 million could be put to use effectively in a similar trade in the future. Beyond that, the Warriors offered two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks, all in exchange for the bloated salaries of Richard Jefferson, Andris Biedrins, and (to a lesser extent) Brandon Rush.
Jazz buying a pick was very uncharacteristic. Getting money in a trade is very Jazz-like. I'd guess they wanted Rush in on the deal because he was a player before he got hurt and is still young enough to be part of their long-term plan.
It made sense for the Jazz to take on the salaries in a year in which they weren’t going to compete
That's when they made it clear they weren't going to compete anyway by waiving their rights to Millsap to make the deal.
, and get additional assets for the future. The Jazz also negotiated the picks to work out most favorably for them. For example, the “Stepien Rule” prevents teams from trading consecutive 1st round picks. That means that if the Jazz were going to get a 2014 pick (which they wanted), the next first round pick couldn’t be traded until 2016. But the Jazz know, as does the rest of the league, that the 2017 draft class is highly-rated. Yes, they’re 9th graders, but at this moment in time, it looks like a particularly skilled class of 9th graders. Utah, therefore, asked Golden State to send its 2017 pick rather than its 2016 one. It may require more patience, but could be well worth it in the end. All of the draft picks Utah acquired in the deal are unprotected, meaning that there’s significant upside for Utah should Golden State encounter turbulence.
Interesting they got the pick in what is considered a better draft at the moment. Think they might have an extra 1st in 2016 too though which might have been part of the thinking?
It seemed like a good solution for both sides: the Warriors would get Andre Iguodala, adding the defensive wing presence they wanted, and the Jazz would get significant long-term assets. But then, Myers applied the tenth and final of Malhotra’s negotiating tenets: “Never end a negotiation with a ‘Yes’”. Simply put, just because a deal is done, doesn’t mean that it can’t be improved upon.
In this case, with the Warriors having signed Iguodala, Denver faced the prospect of losing one of its best players for nothing. Rather than that, Denver chose to become involved in the deal to at least get a Traded Player Exception it could use later. The Nuggets also happened to be wrapping up negotiations with a former Jazz player, Randy Foye. In return, the Jazz would receive an additional second rounder. For Golden State’s part, structuring the deal as a sign-and-trade would allow them to structure Iguodala’s contract so that it declined in its final year, saving them money down the road. The pieces all fit: the complicated salary dump became a three-team trade, in which the Warriors received Iguodala, the Nuggets received Foye, and the Jazz acquired all of the expiring salary and 5 picks.
That worked out well. Other than Jefferson he was the guy that needed to go most and they got a pick out of it!
Both Morey and Myers consider the trade as a win for all sides. Sure, the Nuggets lost the best player, but he was gone anyway. At least the Nuggets got something to use in the future. For the Jazz, they began their rebuilding process in earnest, with 5 additional draft picks to put towards the process of becoming a contender. As Morey put it Friday, “it turned out to be a very good deal for Utah, especially when you look at [what happened at] the trade deadline.”
Yes no one was giving those picks away at the deadline.
For the Warriors? They acquired one of the most important two-way players in the league, one that’s been absolutely critical to their success this season.
And it wouldn’t have come together but for the winning negotiation tactics of everyone involved. Congrats, GMs, you’ve passed Negotiations 101.
Burke wasn’t the only one coming home (sorta). Alex Jensen, one of the Jazz’s player development coaches, was the head coach of the Cavaliers’ D-League affiliate, the Canton Charge, the past two seasons after his stint with Rick Majerus at St. Louis University.
Jensen, the Viewmont High product, earned D-League coach of the year honors for the 2012-13 campaign.
“We’ve heard it,” Jazz coach Tyrone Corbin said, smiling about Jensen’s accolade.
The former University of Utah standout now works with the Jazz bigs, while co-player development director Johnnie Bryant assists the guards. Corbin hinted that the Jazz might hire another development coach in the future.
“He’s been really good (with) the guys at talking them through situations that they need to continue to work on to get better,” Corbin said of Jensen. “He’s been great. He’s been really good with the guys.”
Sounds like a good thing! Maybe Raja to work with the wings?
This was as good a game as I can recall this year. It was carried by our 5 youngsters for most of the night. All of them showed what they are capable of doing in this league and all of them made significant errors against a great team and when you do that you pay for it. That is why I loved this game. The kids showed what they can do and at the same time their weaknesses got exposed. Milwaukee can’t do that. Boston can’t do that. Only great teams can do that and that is how they will learn.
And you learn by competing every night not trying to lose.
The Jazz defense continues to make major strides. They came in the game 7th in the NBA in EFG% defense over the last 20 games and held the Pacers to 41.5% FG and 5 of 15 from 3. This is a big development with this team
Definitely considering how bad they've been for many years now on that end.
The Pacers could have been a real problem for the Jazz and they battled through it. We have had a bunch of guys who have been struggling and this could have been a night that derailed them instead they all ended with solid offensive nights.
Derrick Favors first quarter was awesome. 11 points, 6 rebounds, 1 assist and dominated Hibbert. Got Hibbert out of the game with foul trouble and was the best big on the floor.
Favors and Kanter had a very exciting two play sequence. On one end, Kanter hit Favors on a paint to paint passs and Favors was fouled and then Favors hit Kanter on a paint to paint pass for a Kanter dunk. These are huge developments for both of these guys. They have to be able to pass if they are going to be able to play together. Favors passing is so much better this season. He is really become an ok passer. Kanter has a long way to go but he is getting better all the time.
Yep. The internal passing with the bigs has been a big part of what they do in Utah.
Both Hayward and Burks continued their upward trend. Gordon finished with 21 on 8 of 15 shooting and Trey hit on 5 of 9 plus he drew a foul and finished with 16 points.
18 turnovers was too many and guys got loose with the ball at times. Very poor outlet passes, not secure with the handle, bad passes above the free throw line, moving picks, etc. Can’t do these things against great teams. They cost you points and the Jazz allowed 24 points on turnovers.
Jazz had a good offensive game plan and understanding of how Indiana’s defense was going to rotate and what Indiana was taking away and where to get some good looks.
Alec Burks was 5 of 16. This is a bad match-up for him. This is the best rim protecting team in the NBA. But this is where he has to become a better mid-range shooter. His 32.9% mid range shooting is 5th worst mid range shooter in NBA who has taken 125 attempts. Only Rubio, Prince, Millsap and Jeff Green are worse.
Interesting Millsap is on there. He used to thrive there in the Jazz system.
However, he did a ton of other things tonight. He made some great passes and finished with 7 assists and he grabbed 9 rebounds. He played a very strong complete game.
Enes had his best two play post sequence. He drop stepped to the baseline and came up the reverse side and then on the next play hit a rolling hook across the middle. He has been working hard with Alex Jensen on his post moves and making them quicker and less Al Jefferson lite and it is working and it shows. Couple that with his jumper and you have a making of an offensive player. Only concern is he has stopped getting fouled. Zero free throws in 13 shot attempts.
And passing which continues to improve. The hook shot could become a big weapon.
It felt as though Kanter played some of the best defense on the pick and roll that I have seen from him this season. He made mistakes and got split on occasion but overall you can see his understanding of the concepts and major growth from even the beginning of the month.
That could be the biggest thing going forward for the team. If he and Favors can be on the court together is a question that needs to be answered in the next year.
The Jazz played a good portion of the game with Burke, Burks, Hayward, Kanter and Favors. They played 9 minutes together and the Jazz were outscored in those 9 minutes 26-14. The Pacers shot 9 of 14 from the field and 2 for 2 from 3 while hitting 6 of 7 from the line. In those nine minutes the Jazz offensive rating was 88 and the defensive rating was 152. For the game Jazz defensive rating was 104.
Jazz were down 4 with :13 left and ended up taking a two. I thought the first look was for a three and it wasn’t there. However, it is not obvious when you look at the numbers if you should shot a three or a two. If you walk the numbers down it is really close over 2 possessions what the right call is. You need the opponent to miss one free throw which if they are 80% free throw shooters which should happen 60% of the time. Even if it is only one possession an 80% free throw shooter makes both 64% of the time and misses one 32% of the time or both 4% of the time. When you shoot the two you are banking on that 36% chance coming up and that might be a better chance than a forced 3. If you are down 5 you MUST shot the three or you are banking on the 4%.
A ton to talk about in this game. I hope I hit it all. Lots of really good signs and lots of room for improvement. Also, how cool would have that been if Hawyard’s shot had gone in.
With his footwork inside and the soft touch on his mid-range jumper, the third-year center from Turkey’s offense is rarely the subject of post-game criticism.
His lack of passing out of double teams has been.
His defense? That’s another story.
But on Sunday night, Kanter’s play against Roy Hibbert, David West and Ian Mahinmi earned praised from his coach and teammates.
"He was really paying attention to details and I thought he got a lot better tonight," Jazz coach Ty Corbin said.
Kanter and Derrick Favors combined to hold Hibbert to just 2 points on 1-of-9 shooting.
"He did a great job," Jazz forward Marvin Williams said. "Enes is a big physical guy. Obviously with West and Hibbert out there, that matchup is not really the best for myself and Jeremy [Evans]. Enes was great. He was locked in from the start of shootaround today and it showed."
Brandon Rush started his NBA career in Indiana, where he averaged 9 points and 3.5 rebounds and shot 40 percent from 3 over three seasons as a Pacer.
Rush is averaging career lows in points, rebounds and shooting percentage.
Sunday marked the third time in four games he did not play.
So how can he get back to his pre-injury form?
"Just keep getting his confidence and keep working," Corbin said. "He had a tough injury. He took a lot of time off. He’s made some strides this year. I think his confidence is coming. I don’t think it’s where he or anybody wants it to be just yet, but he’s made some strides."
Ante Tomic has been named Euroleague MVP for the second straight week.
The All-Euroleague center set three new career highs in leading FC Barcelona to a thrilling 84-89 overtime win in Istanbul over Anadolu Efes in Top 16 Round 8.
Tomic scored a career-best 26 points, making 11 of his 16 two-point attempts. Tomic also had 15 rebounds, another career high, while providing three assists and drawing 7 fouls, which added up to a performance index rating of 40 – the best of his career.
Via RealGM Staff Report
Not sure he fits in to the Jazz plans at this point but he appears to be ready to make the jump. He might be a trade piece still?
"Ah, man," said Jazz forward Marvin Williams, who watched the final shot from the bench. "He couldn’t have gotten a better look and I wouldn’t want a better person shooting it. The plays that he made to get us back in the game, man, he deserved to take that shot. Ten times out of 10, I’m going with Gordon Hayward with the ball and the game on the line."
The loss was Utah’s second in the first two games of this six-game trip. But after suffering a 20-point drubbing Friday night in Cleveland, hanging with the East’s best team — albeit a tired, and shorthanded version — might very well count as a bounce-back.
After twice squandering double-digit leads in the first half, the Jazz found themselves playing from behind against the Pacers. Indiana swarmed the Jazz, blocking eight shots and forcing 18 turnovers, resulting in 24 points.
Indiana, missing starting point guard George Hill and facing an early tipoff after playing in Boston the night before, got a game-high 25 points from forward David West and another 22 points from All-Star Paul George.
Utah (21-38) was down six points with five minutes to play when Hayward joined Trey Burke, Alec Burks, Enes Kanter and Derrick Favors on the floor. The Jazz’s young foundation nearly fought all the way back.
"These are situations that you have to … go through to grow through as a group," coach Ty Corbin said.
Said Williams, "That lineup that got us back in the game and kept us in the game, that is the future of Utah. Any Utah Jazz fan should be extremely excited about the future."
Be more excited if they'd realized the future was now instead of throwing away the season. A lot of question marks still but their play this year is reason for optimism for sure.
Burke finished with 16 points and 5 assists; Burks with 11 points and 9 rebounds; Kanter with 12 and 7 boards.
Favors, who first met up with the Jazz for a game in Indiana after being traded to the team in 2011, showed off his development since that rookie season. After the trade, Favors was soft-spoken and overwhelmed. Sunday night, he took a fight to All-Star center Roy Hibbert, getting the 7-footer in foul trouble that limited him to fewer than 20 minutes on the floor. Favors, meanwhile, scored 17 points and grabbed 11 rebounds.
And Hayward, after a quiet start to Sunday’s game, scored 16 of his 21 points in the second half.
His trey with 3.2 seconds left in the game cut the Pacers’ lead down to one. And after a pair of Lance Stephenson free throws, Hayward raced down the right sideline, freeing himself for a shot and a chance at overtime.
The Utah Jazz lost a 94-91 nail-biter to the NBA-leading Indiana Pacers Sunday night, but it was the distribution of playing time that was the real story. For just the second time all season, all five of the “Foundation Five” young players for the Jazz played at least 30 minutes in the same game.
Against Indiana, they even finished the game on the court together in the latter part of the fourth quarter, another extreme rarity.
It was also just the third time since Nov. 21 that Enes Kanter and Derrick Favors both played at least 30 minutes in the same game.
Before any Jazz fans get too excited and start thinking that maybe Jazz leadership was finally beaten with a rational stick, however, there’s evidence that suggests this sudden coherent minute distribution by the coaching staff was merely a misguided attempt to play “matchup basketball,” rather than a true light-bulb moment.
I say that because one of the other two times since Nov. 21 that Kanter and Favors both played at least 30 minutes in the same game was also against Indiana.
The minute distribution for the Jazz this season has largely defied reason.
If you are the Jazz, how do you possibly justify giving Richard Jefferson, an old veteran offseason afterthought acquisition who basically already said he doesn’t want to play for the Jazz next season and who Sports Illustrated named to its “All-Atrocious” team, more minutes than Kanter this season, a player you invested a No. 3 overall draft pick on?
Even if you want to make a highly debatable argument that Jefferson has been more effective than Kanter on the court this season (Kanter has a much better player efficiency rating than Jefferson), it doesn’t matter anyway because that argument is invalid since winning doesn’t benefit the Jazz this season.
It doesn't benefit them because they went into the season looking to lose. But as we've seen they can play with the best teams in the league on any given night. Sad that people think losing is a good thing in any form. All their young players have benefited from being on a competitive team. The reason they've been able to compete this year is because they have been in the rotation(sometimes anyway in Burks case and occasionally in Evans') on competitive teams the past 2 to 3 years. Giving a young guys minutes just because isn't always a good thing. Make them earn their minutes. They will continue to work. Would Enes be better if he'd been playing 40 minutes a game the past two years or learning from Al?
Among Jazz players that have played in at least 40 games and averaged at least 15 minutes per game, Jefferson has the worst player efficiency rating on the team, yet he averages 27 minutes per game – the same as Alec Burks, and more than Kanter, Jeremy Evans and Marvin Williams, all of whom have significantly outperformed Jefferson on the court.
Jefferson’s player efficiency (12.0) is actually a lot closer to Rudy Gobert’s (11.0), the rookie the Jazz sent down to the D-League, than it is to Williams’ (15.1), Kanter’s (15.5), Burks’ (15.6) or Evans’ (18.2).
Not only have the Jazz invested their minutes poorly this season, but they are also now barely hanging on to a top-10 pick in the upcoming draft. That’s called mismanaging your assets on multiple levels.
I'd say they misjudged how good they'd be. A veteran pg to teach Burke the ropes(not a 3rd stringer like Lucas) and they might be looking at the playoffs(not to mention Millsap and Demarre). Considering how young they are that would bode well for the future with or without the high lottery pick.
Washington is a great example of what a difference vets make. They were a mess until they mixed some vets in with the youngsters.
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So here it was a test. A non-sexy team on the back end of a back-to-back after a tough, physical game against the team with the best record in the NBA. Have you learned how to prepare? Have you learned how to fight through the mental fatigue? Have you found a way to get your mind and body connection going on a “boring” night? To these questions, Hayward and Kanter could say “yes” tonight. The rest of the team can’t.
In the first half I thought the night was fine. The team didn’t come out with a lot of juice, but they stayed in the game. The Bucks were making some shots they don’t usually make and the Jazz kept it close going into halftime. Then the Jazz came out terribly to open the third quarter. The Bucks opened on a 6-0 run. Corbin called an early timeout … to no avail. The run continued to 18-6, and the Jazz were suddenly down 23 and the night was over. Awful stretch.
The Bucks had only led by 10 points or more for 4% of their minutes this season. They had only led by 15 points or more for 49 minutes the entire season. They led by 20 or more tonight for the final 18 minutes of the game.
Enes Kanter is showing great signs of growth. His passing is remarkable considering where it was. Kick-out passes to the right guy on a double team from the post. That never happened before. He is recognizing defenders and defenses. He is learning when to make the hand-off and when not to. At times this season, Enes would throw 11 passes in a night and none of them would travel farther than a body length. It would kill the offense. The opposite is now happening. This is where time on the floor is really helpful.
Enes is getting better defensively as well. Tonight was a dumpster fire defensively so it’s hard to give credit to anyone, but it felt as though Kanter had another night of improvement defensively.
Should have been expected. He's worked and shown progress since he joined the team.
Milwaukee came in 29th in FG% and shot 57% tonight.
Strange thing is that Utah’s defense had been so much better recently. Over the last 20 games, Utah’s EFG% against was 7th in the NBA. Tonight they allowed an EFG% of over 60%. That is insanely bad.
This road trip for Derrick Favors has been non-impactful in Cleveland and awesome in Indiana. He was dominant in Indiana. He killed Hibbert and had 11 points, seven rebounds and one block in the first quarter on Sunday. And then tonight he was non-impactful again. Interesting to see what he does the rest of the trip. The Jazz really need Favors to play and impact games every night for him to assume the roll he is slotted for in this franchise.
Which at the moment is franchise player.
Interesting to see what happens next. The season of discovery continues, and the next three games might teach us as much as any others.
Chinese Basketball Association named Lester Hudson as MVP of the 2013/2014 season. He had a terrific year with Xinjiang Flying Tigers averaging 26 points, 7.7 rebounds and 5.8 assists per game. Sportando
I thought he could have helped the Jazz especially at the beginning of the year when Burke was out. He made more sense than Tinsley with his ability to shoot and defend.