When will the Jazz get their first win? Houston is a tall order, even at home. The Jazz play at Brooklyn on Tuesday. Boston is beatable but maybe not on the second night of an East Coast back-to-back. Then there's Chicago and Toronto back-to-back. I don't know. You tell me.
The Jazz can match any offer he receives from another team. Remember when Paul Millsap signed the offer sheet with Portland that everybody labeled "toxic" and wondered how the Jazz could match it? By the end of deal, it was a bargain.
Matthews and Mo would have been too!
The Jazz will have plenty of money to pay Hayward, and maybe it’s healthy that his performance this season and the interest he attracts will help establish his value. There’s risk for both sides, in that sense. The team may end up overpaying for him and the offer sheet may have provisions that enable Hayward to become an unrestricted free agent relatively soon. And Hayward is gambling that he will increase his stock leaguewide — or least with one team that’s willing to pursue him, with no guaranteed hope of landing him.
So these are the questions as of today: How will this development will affect Hayward’s play? How fans should view him?
During a news conference to celebrate Favors’ contract, general manager Dennis Lindsey said the deal showed the Jazz were willing to "pay market prices." So in Hayward’s case, it’s obvious the two sides differed about the player’s value. That happens.
Personally, I wanted Favors to prove more this season, and I thought Hayward would respond better than Favors to the security of a new deal. But the reverse may be true as well. Favors may be motivated enough to keep improving and Hayward is mature enough to not let the uncertainty bother him.
There will be questions all season, starting next week when the Jazz visit Boston — coached by Brad Stevens, Hayward’s former coach at Butler.
Horny would love him too as would pretty much every team I imagine.
Hayward will have to deal with the issue all season, publicly and privately.
Fans naturally will wonder what’s going to happen, and question the commitment of the Jazz and Hayward to one another. But without knowing exactly what happened during the negotiations, it’s probably unfair to blame either side. The reality is that the collective bargaining rules give them another chance to stay together, probably for just as long as if they had agreed to a deal now.
"I wish it could have happened," Hayward said. "[But] this in no way changes the way I feel about Utah at all. I love being here, love playing for them."
Jazz general manager Dennis Lindsey said, "Time and circumstances dictated that this deal will get done at a later date," adding that Hayward "will be a leader of our team for a long time."
"He’s someone we can see in a Utah Jazz jersey until he retires," Lindsey said. "That’s our hope. We think there’s a great fit."
Hayward spent Thursday night with his teammates at a bowling alley, playing pool and watching the other NBA games on TV.
"It was kind of like a normal day," Hayward said.
He and the team vowed there would be more normal days — business as usual with the Jazz — even without an extension beyond this season.
"No hard feelings at all," Hayward said. "I understand the NBA is a business, and they’ve got to make business decisions."
Jazz coach Ty Corbin said he spoke with his player about his importance to the team, and said he doesn’t believe his contract status will be a distraction.
"Not getting it worked out is difficult for all of us, but we’re going make sure we support him as much as we can," said Corbin, who is also without a deal after this year. "We love to have him here. We look forward to coaching him for a lot of years. We’ll get through this."
The coach added: "He knows he’s a huge part of who we’re trying to become and who we are now."
Indeed, Hayward has long figured into the Jazz’s future plans, Lindsey said.
"A big reason why we did what we did this offseason was with Gordon in mind," he said. "We let a lot of good veterans go to allow the younger core rise to prominence. We’re now in a position where we have multiple first-round picks in the future. We’re now in a position where we can match offer sheets in the future. … We’re still in a position that if we do have to match an offer sheet, that we can add to the group in a big way with another big salary cap allotment this summer."
There are risks for both sides in waiting until July to get a deal done. For Hayward, there’s a chance his value could drop between now and the summer. Agent Mark Bartelstein indicated that Hayward was not seeking a max deal from Utah. So for the Jazz, there’s a chance Hayward signs with another team for even more than he’s seeking now, forcing Utah to either match or allow him to walk.
A lot of that will be dictated by the market and how Hayward performs this year.
Asked if he saw this as a gamble, a bet on his own abilities, Hayward said this: "I’ve always believed in myself a lot, and I have a lot of confidence in my abilities. So we’ll let the chips fall where they may next summer."
Many times as the Utah Jazz scrimmaged over the last three years, it had been his job to coach the team’s youngsters. Friday night, he watched his former pupils — Hayward, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter and Alec Burks — get the Jazz to the brink of victory before coming up just short.
So how did they fare against the vets?
"These guys are all great players, and to watch them go from their rookie years to where they’re at now, except for when we play them, it’s exciting to watch," Hornacek said.
For the second time in as many games, the Jazz took the game down to the wire.
After watching his buzzer-beating effort rim out on opening night, Hayward hit a 3-pointer to tie things up with 16 seconds left.
Bledsoe, however, would play spoiler.
The point guard scored Phoenix’s final 14 points of the game and finished with a team-high 18.
While Hornacek’s Suns improved to 2-0, the Jazz lost another close game. Still, the new head coach said he sees promise in the team he once helped mold.
Hornacek called Jazz big men Derrick Favors and Enes Kanters "monsters on the boards" and the two post players lived up to the billing, grabbing a combined 29 rebounds on the night. In all, the Jazz out-rebounded Phoenix 53-46.
Kanter, Favors and Hayward each finished with a double-double in the loss.
A day after his contract extension talks with the team fell apart, Hayward scored 18 points and grabbed 10 rebounds. He hit one game-tying triple late, but stepped out of bounds trying for another with less than a second left in the game.
Hornacek spoke highly of Hayward before the game. He compared Hayward’s development with his own, adding that he believes the Jazz swingman is a year ahead of where Hornacek was at the same point in his career.
"I truly believe in a couple years he could be an All-Star in this league," Hornacek said.
Burks continued to play the role of sixth man, coming off the bench to score 15 points. But the rest of the Jazz reserves chipped in just five points in the loss.
The Jazz’s offense as a whole left Hayward, the team’s young leader, wanting.
"We’ve got to be able to execute down the stretch," he said. "Too many turnovers, too many, not necessarily bad shots, but they weren’t good shots."
For a young Jazz team that will likely see its share of struggles on the road, Friday’s loss was a squandered opportunity. Utah now returns home to face the Rockets, before leaving on a difficult four-game East Coast road trip next week.
"It’s tough, especially losing by three points," Favors said. "But you’ve got to have a short memory and get back to it tomorrow night."
Much of Jazz nation spent Halloween with one eye on the candy bowl and the other eye on Twitter, hoping news would surface on the 10 p.m. MDT deadline for the Jazz to extend Gordon Hayward’s rookie contract. Yahoo! Sports’ Adrian Wojnarowski, famous for his breaking news Tweets we lovingly refer to as WojBombs, finally broke the silence… with bad news.
Remains to be seen if it's bad news. If he wanted too much money and they didn't give it to him it's good news.
Again, it’s impossible to predict for sure, but using the 2013 RFA class as an example, they had a pretty hard time getting paid. Most of them either had to wait until the unrestricted guys were gone and/or settle for the low end of their range.
Jeff Teague and Brandon Jennings were both considered among the top available point guards, but both settled for 8M/yr and both were towards the tail end of signings among Amin Elhassan’s top 25 free agent list.
Gary Neal was a late sign and only got 2 years, 6M (although he’s clearly in a lower talent class, too).
Nikola Pekovic eventually (after 1.5 months) agreed to terms with his original team. He got a five-year deal, but pretty much at the base end of the big man range (12M/yr).
Tiago Splitter also managed to sign a new contract with his original team, for the discount price of 9M/yr.
Gerald Henderson was Charlotte’s second-leading scorer, but got hosed in Restricted Free Agency (3 years, 18M total) and was pretty much the last non-minimum level wing to sign.
Only Tyreke Evans got an early deal at a fair value (4/44M), but that’s because he orchestrated a sign & trade that made all parties happy.
A lot more teams could be in play next summer though and I could see pretty much anyone wanting G.
It was obvious from the start that without Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap, this team had adapted a new style of offense that ran through Derrick Favors, who scored or assisted on each of the Jazz’s first 11 points.
Why is it running through their defensive specialist though?
“Clearly playing Millsap over Favors the last two years was the correct thing to do....or something,” tweeted @Tim_Ormond.
Yes but having Jefferson on the team was not.
“Derrick Favors managed to go 10 minutes of play before picking up his first foul. Vast improvement,” tweeted @TaxiSquadShow.
Let's hope he can keep it up.
“Alec Burks reminds me of Lance Stephenson. He changes the game and he’s unpredictable. I love it,” tweeted @My_Lo.
In 2nd half of games this year the Jazz are shooting 38.9% and 4 of 31 from three.
The Jazz young players are still developing and the process is dominating a sequence of plays, then dominate a quarter, then a half. Eventually you get a game and maybe a week and at some point it would be great to be dominate for a month. Right now we are seeing the players dominate a half – Hayward was great in 1st half v. Phoenix and disappeared in 2nd half same with Kanter last night. Burks has had moments of brilliance only to follow with mistaken ideas. This is where they are and it is a process you have to live through.
Offense was going to be hard to come by. This was before Trey got hurt and is even more so with the injuries to Marvin and Brandon.
I'll take Jefferson and Harris over Marvin any day of the week! The idea that he is missed is funny!
Jazz are shooting just 41.2% and hitting on only 24.6% of threes. Advanced Metrics tell a clearer picture – The Jazz offensive rating is 93.9, the worst in the NBA last year was 97.8 (Washington Wizards) and league median was 102.7.
The defense was going to be improved. In fact it is. The first half v. Houston was one of the best defensive stretches I have seen from the Jazz since ……. . The paint was collapsing on the driver, the rim was being protected by Favors, Kanter and Gobert and the weakside rotations were generally very good against a team that really taxes you with spacing and three point shooters.
Gordon Hayward was going to be asked to do huge work as a the #1 option offensively and that his stats and performance might take a dip because of it . Through the pre-season this was true and thus far this regular season it is true as well. Hayward is shooting 37% from the field and 38% from three. He is scoring 15 pts grabbing 6 rebounds and handing out 5 assists. That production is impressive and now he needs to become more efficient. It will happen. He is being asked to do an enormous amount.
I don't think it will necessarily happen if he is asked to be the go to guy. Burks and Kanter both fit that role better.
The Trey Burke injury would really hurt the Jazz. The team was built to allow Trey to play without a lot of competition behind him and now that competition is being forced to play 48 minutes a night. The Jazz are +11 with Tinsley on the floor but he is shooting 2 of 9 and John Lucas is 9 for 28. The Trey Burke replacements are 11 for 37 from the field and 3 of 16 from three.
Like with Marvin it's funny that anyone thinks Burke who shot like shit in the summer and his 2 pre season games is automatically going to change anything. Hopefully he will but let's see him show something first.
Bottom line – none of what we are seeing is surprising. It is tough to handle or stomach when you are hoping to get a win and it slips away. But, it is not surprising. Watch the season in 20 game increments or at time 10 game pieces. We are a small portion through the first one and it will be really interesting to watch how they do from game 50-60 or 30-40 in contrast to 1-10.
Here is a collection of finds involving the Jazz with the new Player Tracking Data – Defensive and Movement
Derrick Favors has run 7.8 miles in 3 games most on the team his average of 2.6 miles is 10th in the NBA.
Gordon Hayward is second on the Jazz averaging 2.5 miles run per game
John Lucas averages 2.4 and Enes Kanter averges 2.3 miles a game
TOUCHES AND POSSESSIONS
Derrick Favors leads the NBA (non point guards) in touches at 83.3 a game though only 38.3 of those are front court touches.
Favors 9 close touches (within 12 feet) per game are the most in the NBA by a sizeable amount, next is Marc Gasol at 7.3
Enes Kanter is getting 6 close touches a game 13th in the NBA
Enes Kanter leads the Jazz at .6 pts per front court touch – this rewards not passing of course. He is the only Jazz player in the top 100 of pts per front court touch
This is defined as the defender being within 5 feet of the basket and within 5 feet of the player taking the shot
Best in the league are Asik allowing 21%, Kaman 21% and Hibbert 21%
On average Derrick Favors defends 8.3 shots per night at the rim and teams are shooting 53%
On average Enes Kanter defends 7.3 shots per night at the rim and teams are shooting 50%’
Note Paul Millsap is allowing 63% and Carlos Boozer 64%
I'm still not convinced Favors is a better defender than Kanter either. Better help defender.
If the filter becomes only 3 FGA at rim per game Gordon Hayward is the best in the NBA at 11.0% 1 for 9
When Rudy Gobert is within 5 feet of rim and 5 feet of player taking the shot teams are 2 for 10
Of players getting 5 rebounds a game Gordon Hayward leads the NBA in % of rebounds per chance. A chance is defined as times a player is within 3.5 feet of a rebound. Hayward has grabbed 19 of the 22 rebounds he has had a chance to get.
Only 26% of Hayward’s rebounds have been contested
Derrick Favors is getting 54% of his rebound chances and 37.5% of his rebounds are contested
Enes Kanter is getting 54% of his rebound chances and 53% of his rebounds are contested
Off the bench, Lucas played his best game of the season. He finished with nine points on 5-for-11 shooting after going 4-for-17 in losses to Oklahoma City and Phoenix.
"I’m fine," he said. "I’m a basketball player. Whether I start or come off the bench, I’m going to give it everything I have every night. That’s just my mentality."
Why wouldn't he be fine? He's happy to have a guaranteed contract to be in the league. He should be at the end of a bench at best not in a rotation.
Jamaal Tinsley started in place of Lucas, although he ended up playing only 14 minutes.
Asked about the change in line-ups, Corbin said, "I thought it worked well for us in the first half. I thought Jamaal came in and was organized. He knew where he wanted to go. And Lucas came in and created pace with the second group. … In the second half, it wasn’t the same. We can’t afford to have that."