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Old 01-24-2014, 10:08 PM   #286
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Default Re: The Knicks Official Regular Season Game Thread.

melo had a legit chance at 82

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Old 01-25-2014, 04:15 AM   #287
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Default Re: The Knicks Official Regular Season Game Thread.

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Congrats for setting the new Knicks record....well deserved Melo.
You know he played out of his mind when knickscity can't say anything bad about him

Knicks season so far has been almost as bad as possible. Now at least we have something good to remember it for.

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Default Re: The Knicks Official Regular Season Game Thread.

The problem is that even if Melo played out of his mind like this every night, which he won't especially come playoff time, this team wouldn't go anywhere.
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Default Re: The Knicks Official Regular Season Game Thread.

I woulda let him go for 70 lol
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I woulda let him go for 70 lol
Me too. Woodson should have gave him at least few more minutes. You rarely get a chance to score 70.

I know he needs to rest as much as possible but come on,this season is a disaster,I would definitely risk and give him the green light to go for as much as possible.
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Default Re: The Knicks Official Regular Season Game Thread.

My thing is, I've seen Woodson playing him inexplicably when we were on the wrong end of a blowout. What's a minute or 2. No exaggeration, he could have easily gone for 75. He came out with like 7 minutes left That's what's remarkable about the whole thing. He hit the 50 point mark with tons of time left in the 3rd quarter. Just insane.
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Huge game from Melo! I missed it though.
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Huge game from Melo! I missed it though.
You missed one of the few Knicks games this season worth of watching
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Huge game from Melo! I missed it though.
ESPN has a clip of all his points...if that helps.
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Not saying this proves anything really but I found this interesting. I also find it interesting that the exceptions are Tyson Chandler and Pablo Prigioni

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Default Re: The Knicks Official Regular Season Game Thread.

The only thing I got from the article is what everyone has said over and over again...

He needs to pass more and shoot less, and at least the article is concrete proof that his teammates are good enough to hit a basket if he freely and willingly gave up the ball in the right spots....NOT KICKOUTS.

Not really surprised Pablo and Tyson woiuld be exceptions....

Pablo doesnt really shoot at all, and Tyson basically is lobs at best on offense with an ocassion jumper.

But speaking of articles, this one really interesting......

According to the player tracking technology at SportVU, Anthony makes 42.7 passes a game. That's comparable to other 20-point-per-game small forwards, such as Miami's LeBron James (49.4), Indiana's Paul George (46.7), Orlando's Arron Afflalo (44.2) and Oklahoma City's Kevin Durant (37.7). Of Anthony's 42.7 passes, about 6.5 a game would become assists if his teammates hit all the shots they created. In other words, about 15% of Anthony's passes lead to a scoring opportunity.

How does that rate rank among the aforementioned group? At the bottom, far behind those of Durant (32%) and James (24%), and still trailing Afflalo (17.8%) and George's (15.2%). Moreover, Anthony's 0.7 "hockey assists" per game—passes that lead to an assist for someone else—are on the low end for the group.

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And there it is...concrete data.
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Default Re: The Knicks Official Regular Season Game Thread.

Good win tonite against a pretty disgustingly bad team.

Saw alot of good things from the team pretty much everywhere.
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Default Re: The Knicks Official Regular Season Game Thread.

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The only thing I got from the article is what everyone has said over and over again...

He needs to pass more and shoot less, and at least the article is concrete proof that his teammates are good enough to hit a basket if he freely and willingly gave up the ball in the right spots....NOT KICKOUTS.

Not really surprised Pablo and Tyson woiuld be exceptions....

Pablo doesnt really shoot at all, and Tyson basically is lobs at best on offense with an ocassion jumper.

But speaking of articles, this one really interesting......

According to the player tracking technology at SportVU, Anthony makes 42.7 passes a game. That's comparable to other 20-point-per-game small forwards, such as Miami's LeBron James (49.4), Indiana's Paul George (46.7), Orlando's Arron Afflalo (44.2) and Oklahoma City's Kevin Durant (37.7). Of Anthony's 42.7 passes, about 6.5 a game would become assists if his teammates hit all the shots they created. In other words, about 15% of Anthony's passes lead to a scoring opportunity.

How does that rate rank among the aforementioned group? At the bottom, far behind those of Durant (32%) and James (24%), and still trailing Afflalo (17.8%) and George's (15.2%). Moreover, Anthony's 0.7 "hockey assists" per game—passes that lead to an assist for someone else—are on the low end for the group.

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And there it is...concrete data.

Which means the shots aren't being made.... If he passes just as many times but it yields less results, doesn't that say a lot about the teammates he's passing to?

He passes more on this team than anyone not named Raymond Felton. Our starting PG. LeBron is damn near Miami's starting PG at this point and Melo's passes per game aren't far off from his.

You said yourself, Pablo never shoots and Chandler is only good for lobs. Well guess what...that's 2 out of 5 starters. Iman Shumpert is shooting 38% form the field and Felton 41% (29% from 3). So again I ask you...where's the help?
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Default Re: The Knicks Official Regular Season Game Thread.

If the idea was to get Carmelo to move the ball and create for teammates the worst group they could put with him is Felton, prigioni, shumpert; and chandler.

If you wanted a different result from Carmelo you have to put him in a different situation. Jr smith was the most positive impact he had been all year last night. What was the different situation?
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We need guards who can penetrate and dish. This Pablo Shitioni stuff is irking me. He's a waste of minutes. The so called "best PG we have" is getting 3 points and 3 assists yet again, an overrated defender AND he doesn't do anything a PG does on offense. He has no handle. He doesn't penetrate and dish. He's just out there passing the ball around the horn and getting praised for his "ball movement". That's not an asset. that's a liability. He's passing it because he's scared to shoot.

You know how many free throws Pablo Prigioni has shot this year? TWO Two ****ing free throws in 30 games of basketball playing 20 minutes a game. That means you aren't penetrating AT ALL. Which means you are HURTING our ball movement. Not helping it.
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