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Old 01-31-2014, 06:08 PM   #301
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Which means the shots aren't being made.... If he passes just as many times but it yields less results, doesn't that say a lot about the teammates he's passing to?

He passes more on this team than anyone not named Raymond Felton. Our starting PG. LeBron is damn near Miami's starting PG at this point and Melo's passes per game aren't far off from his.

You said yourself, Pablo never shoots and Chandler is only good for lobs. Well guess what...that's 2 out of 5 starters. Iman Shumpert is shooting 38% form the field and Felton 41% (29% from 3). So again I ask you...where's the help?
You may want to read it again.

SportsVu counts every release of the ball to a teammate as a pass, but that doesnt mean that the pass could be an assist.

For instance, when the Knicks run their scissors play, sometimes Tyson gets the ball at the top of the key...thats a pass, and whom he releases it to is another pass.

But neither of those passes are capable of generating an assist...tyson isnt breaking the play to launch a 20 footer and the give off pass wont be shot either.

For me it's never about passing the ball, they all do that....it's about making plays.

And from watching the games you can tell the difference.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:54 PM   #302
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You may want to read it again.

SportsVu counts every release of the ball to a teammate as a pass, but that doesnt mean that the pass could be an assist.

For instance, when the Knicks run their scissors play, sometimes Tyson gets the ball at the top of the key...thats a pass, and whom he releases it to is another pass.

But neither of those passes are capable of generating an assist...tyson isnt breaking the play to launch a 20 footer and the give off pass wont be shot either.

For me it's never about passing the ball, they all do that....it's about making plays.

And from watching the games you can tell the difference.

Yes, I can tell the difference in talent between the teams. And we're on the wrong side of that line.
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Old 02-01-2014, 06:01 AM   #303
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Yes, I can tell the difference in talent between the teams. And we're on the wrong side of that line.
Certainly to stay that way with a 31 year old in 2015 soking up nearly 40% of the cap.
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Certainly to stay that way with a 31 year old in 2015 soking up nearly 40% of the cap.
You're talking about stuff that MAY happen. I'm talking about stuff that HAS happened. Will we use the 40% to bring in a team full of talent if we don't re-sign him?
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You're talking about stuff that MAY happen. I'm talking about stuff that HAS happened. Will we use the 40% to bring in a team full of talent if we don't re-sign him?

You dont make it to the nba without talent, the irony of this discussion is the majority of guys that has been here Melo has endorsed just about every single one.

How many former Nuggets have we had and still do?

Why wont the team acquire an actual pg instead of just ball movers?

You wonder what the team would do with the 40%...I'm talking about what they HAVE done as well..they have had 40% of cap space once and used it on Amare and melo....two guys who operated pretty much on the same spots of the floor and dont compliment each other at all.

The bottom line is if you want an actual team then your best player must develop into an actual teammmate.....then the better "talent" will migrate in.

But it starts with your best, and our best aint good enough.
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You dont make it to the nba without talent, the irony of this discussion is the majority of guys that has been here Melo has endorsed just about every single one.

How many former Nuggets have we had and still do?

Why wont the team acquire an actual pg instead of just ball movers?

You wonder what the team would do with the 40%...I'm talking about what they HAVE done as well..they have had 40% of cap space once and used it on Amare and melo....two guys who operated pretty much on the same spots of the floor and dont compliment each other at all.

The bottom line is if you want an actual team then your best player must develop into an actual teammmate.....then the better "talent" will migrate in.

But it starts with your best, and our best aint good enough.

So it's Melo's fault the GM has brought in guys like Prigioni and Jared Jeffries now?

Guys you wanted by the way
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Sloppy game. Melo with some unforced turnovers so far. Our switching is killing us. I don't get why we just can't let Melo guard LeBron. He's guarded him just fine over their careers.
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So it's Melo's fault the GM has brought in guys like Prigioni and Jared Jeffries now?

Guys you wanted by the way
Whining about min salary players still?

Thats all you can get when guys who dont deserve the money eat up all the cap.

Lol at the team getting lit up by Shane battier.

and he's currently SHUTTING MELO DOWN.
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Lots of game left, but this isnt the Cavs, Bobcats, Celtics or Lakers.

A real team is in the building tonite.

might wanna play some defense.
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Whining about min salary players still?

Thats all you can get when guys who dont deserve the money eat up all the cap.

Lol at the team getting lit up by Shane battier.

and he's currently SHUTTING MELO DOWN.
Do you come on here when he plays well? No
Definition of a hater lol

Neither Prigioni nor Chandler make the minimum.
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Somehow Mike Woodson thinks Tim Hardaway Jr and JR Smith are better options on LeBron than Melo.
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Do you come on here when he plays well? No
Definition of a hater lol

Neither Prigioni nor Chandler make the minimum.

I know I congratulated Melo for his 62 point game, so I'm sure this is blatantly false.

But I know he isnt who you think he is.

Lets cut to the chase because it's getting old.

I wont say shit about melo from this point forward, if you stop whining about his supporting cast.

I'm good on this end effective now...this dialogue has just gotten dumb at this point.
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Miami isnt 60% shooting good.....just some defense may help tonite.
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Good tip Tyson to get the game close.

Shut up battier.
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I know I congratulated Melo for his 62 point game, so I'm sure this is blatantly false.

But I know he isnt who you think he is.

Lets cut to the chase because it's getting old.

I wont say shit about melo from this point forward, if you stop whining about his supporting cast.

I'm good on this end effective now...this dialogue has just gotten dumb at this point.

My dude...Say what you will. It's your forum homie. You had one sentence about Melo since he's played well. He has a bad game and you have entire paragraphs. It's all good. I won't stop talking about our supporting cast. I'll just stop here. You've attacked my IQ plenty of times but I know if I put you in your place like I really want to you'll probably ban me or erase my post or some shit . Either way, all good. The convo isn't getting dumb because of me. But to each is own. This forum has gotten dead anyway. Apparently you only know basketball if you think Melo sucks and bums who do nothing are good. I'm not going to lie to myself. I know what I see. So be it.

I said I was going to fall back but I kept posting because I missed the days when this forum used to be fun and popping. Its far from that site now.

If anyone wants to be able to talk Knicks basketball and voice displeasure about any player, Melo included, come to threetothedome.com or knicksnow.com Pretty fun sites. I'll be over there more often. Lata

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