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Old 11-14-2013, 11:12 AM   #1
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Default Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

Penny gut injured much earlier than Mcgrady, but his small sample size still showed greatness when he had not even reached his prime. Injury bug caught tracy a little later but still riddled his career. Both rocked the #1 jersey for the Magic, and both got to the finals and lost (not really relevant for mcgrady riding pine), both could have been greater. Who you got?
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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

McGrady...and it's not even close.
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:15 AM   #3
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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

IMO T-Mac. I believe we saw enough of them, and Hill, to know how good they would've been.
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:16 AM   #4
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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

Hard to say since we don't know if Penny would have been able to get better than what we had already seen from him in his second and third year in the league.

From what we saw, T-mac reached a higher level...in 2002 and 2003 in Orlando.
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:16 AM   #5
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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

Grant vs Mcgrady would be more interesting. I doubt anyone can fully say Penny was or would have been better.
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:27 AM   #10
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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

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Grant vs Mcgrady would be more interesting. I doubt anyone can fully say Penny was or would have been better.

Penny was enormously talented. remember, he was a true point guard at 6'7''.
impossible to say who would've been the best of those three.

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Old 11-14-2013, 11:30 AM   #11
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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

Tmac, easily.

Tmac gets such a bad rep for not making it out of the first round. If you look at his stats and the stats of his teammates, he's clearly not to blame. He's elevated his level of play in the postseason year after year while his team stinks it up.

Tmac in his prime would be able to give prime Jordan/Kobe/Lebron a run. Any of those 4 could outperform one another on any given night.
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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

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Grant vs Mcgrady would be more interesting. I doubt anyone can fully say Penny was or would have been better.

What?

Penny > Grant Hill

And that is just from what we saw, and is not just speculation about Penny improving upon his second and third year.

Peak Penny was better than Peak Hill. And Peak Hill was likely his true peak. Penny may have improved upon his peak.
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:39 AM   #13
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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

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Peak Penny was better than Peak Hill. And Peak Hill was likely his true peak. Penny may have improved upon his peak.

i actually have to agree.
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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

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What?

Penny > Grant Hill

And that is just from what we saw, and is not just speculation about Penny improving upon his second and third year.

Peak Penny was better than Peak Hill. And Peak Hill was likely his true peak. Penny may have improved upon his peak.

?????

Peak Penny put up 21/4/7 with 2 stls on .605 TS%.

Peak Hill put up 21/9/7 with 2 stls on .556 TS% or 26/7/5 on .565 TS%

Not only this, but Grant Hill was one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.
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Default Re: Penny or McGrady: If never injured, who is better all time

Hill didn't play with Shaq either. He put up Penny's assist numbers as a SF with average teammates.
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