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Old 10-25-2013, 11:09 PM   #1
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Thanks to CavaliersFTW for the vid. Just watched the entirety of it. For those who haven't watched, Chick Hearn interviews Barkley and he mentions the criticism of Barkley not helping other players/ making them better and the fact that he doesn't workout during the summer or do anything basketball related. And people wonder why he's a career loser that shouldn't be picked over Duncan, Garnett and Dirk.
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went into thread to see a picture of MJ. came away disappointed.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:21 PM   #3
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1. He was in his 4th year.
2. Not sure why I am responding. Instead of creating intelligent arguments, you posted a bunch of garbage accusations and statements. It will be a lot more rewarding if you actually work towards meaningful discussions. Coherent arguments should be step 1 for you.
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went into thread to see a picture of MJ. came away disappointed.

Less than 19% of his career.. unless MJ wore a disguise and played for the Jazz x2, Rockets x2, Bucks x2, Celtics, Knicks, Spurs and Lakers.


1999-00 No Playoffs
1998-99 Lost to LA Lakers NBA Western Conference First Round
1997-98 Lost to Utah Jazz NBA Western Conference First Round
1996-97 Lost to Utah Jazz NBA Western Conference Finals
1995-96 Lost to San Antonio Spurs Western Conference First Round
1994-95 Lost to Houston Rockets Western Conference Semifinals
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1987-88 No Playoffs
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1985-86 Lost to Mikawakee Bucks Eastern Conference Semifinals
1984-85 Lost to Boston Celtics Eastern Conference Finals
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1. He was in his 4th year.
2. Not sure why I am responding. Instead of creating intelligent arguments, you posted a bunch of garbage accusations and statements. It will be a lot more rewarding if you actually work towards meaningful discussions. Coherent arguments should be step 1 for you.
That's not gonna happen anytime soon
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Less than 19% of his career.. unless MJ wore a disguise and played for the Jazz x2, Rockets x2, Bucks x2, Celtics, Knicks, Spurs and Lakers.


1999-00 No Playoffs
1998-99 Lost to LA Lakers NBA Western Conference First Round
1997-98 Lost to Utah Jazz NBA Western Conference First Round
1996-97 Lost to Utah Jazz NBA Western Conference Finals
1995-96 Lost to San Antonio Spurs Western Conference First Round
1994-95 Lost to Houston Rockets Western Conference Semifinals
1993-94 Lost to Houston Rockets Western Conference Semifinals
1992-93 Lost to Michael Jordan Finals
1991-92 No Playoffs
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1989-90 Lost to Michael Jordan Eastern Conference Semifinals
1988-89 Lost to New York Knicks Eastern Conference First Round
1987-88 No Playoffs
1986-87 Lost to Mikawakee Bucks Eastern Conference First Round
1985-86 Lost to Mikawakee Bucks Eastern Conference Semifinals
1984-85 Lost to Boston Celtics Eastern Conference Finals

Yep...Charles single-handedly lost all those series.

Same as MJ did in his first six seasons in the league.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:40 PM   #7
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Check out the players PEAK Charles Barkley garnered for the Sixers:

June 17, 1992: Traded by the Philadelphia 76ers to the Phoenix Suns for Jeff Hornacek, Andrew Lang and Tim Perry.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:46 PM   #8
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Yep...Charles single-handedly lost all those series.

Same as MJ did in his first six seasons in the league.
His attitude and play just isn't conducive to winning. He'd be a great drinking buddy I'm sure.. just not good enough as a franchise player because of said tendencies (not even talking about defense).
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Less than 19% of his career.. unless MJ wore a disguise and played for the Jazz x2, Rockets x2, Bucks x2, Celtics, Knicks, Spurs and Lakers.


1999-00 No Playoffs
1998-99 Lost to LA Lakers NBA Western Conference First Round
1997-98 Lost to Utah Jazz NBA Western Conference First Round
1996-97 Lost to Utah Jazz NBA Western Conference Finals
1995-96 Lost to San Antonio Spurs Western Conference First Round
1994-95 Lost to Houston Rockets Western Conference Semifinals
1993-94 Lost to Houston Rockets Western Conference Semifinals
1992-93 Lost to Michael Jordan Finals
1991-92 No Playoffs
1990-91 Lost to Michael Jordan Eastern Conference Semifinals
1989-90 Lost to Michael Jordan Eastern Conference Semifinals
1988-89 Lost to New York Knicks Eastern Conference First Round
1987-88 No Playoffs
1986-87 Lost to Mikawakee Bucks Eastern Conference First Round
1985-86 Lost to Mikawakee Bucks Eastern Conference Semifinals
1984-85 Lost to Boston Celtics Eastern Conference Finals
the thread was about being ringless. idc if he only faced MJ one time. that one time they met in the finals was the time Barkley had a good team around him. anyone else but MJ and he would have had a ring, thereby not being a career loser like OP posited. maybe just a one time winner, but a winner nonetheless. MJ made a lot of HOF players ringless.
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His attitude and play just isn't conducive to winning. He'd be a great drinking buddy I'm sure.. just not good enough as a franchise player because of said tendencies (not even talking about defense).

He's one of the greatest offensive players (and rebounders) ever. What about that isn't "conducive to winning"?
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He's one of the greatest offensive players (and rebounders) ever. What about that isn't "conducive to winning"?

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He's one of the greatest offensive players (and rebounders) ever. What about that isn't "conducive to winning"?
See Kevin Love.

There's more to the game than raw scoring and rebounding (statpadding).
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Bill Russell never worked on basketball in the off season either, for the exact same reasons Barkley stated (to prevent burnout and to recover mentally/physically). God what a loser he turned out to be.
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Bill Russell never worked on basketball in the off season either, for the exact same reasons Barkley stated (to prevent burnout and to recover mentally/physically). God what a loser he turned out to be.
Different/weaker era, hard to compare. Correct me if I'm wrong: Did elite players back then have careers outside of basketball during downtime/off-season?

Also, lets not act like Russell wasn't a sub 45 FG% big man that barely scored over double digits.
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