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Old 11-16-2013, 01:57 AM   #46
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Default Re: Let s be real: Hibbert is the best center in the league

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I don't care how crazy it sounds, I'd rather have Hibbert than Dwight Howard.


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Old 11-16-2013, 02:11 AM   #47
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Default Re: Let s be real: Hibbert is the best center in the league

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I don't care how crazy it sounds, I'd rather have Hibbert than Dwight Howard.

thats not crazy at all, in fact it makes so much sense
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Old 11-16-2013, 02:21 AM   #48
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Default Re: Let s be real: Hibbert is the best center in the league

I don't see why PPG is a huge deal to you guys. On this Pacers squad, Hibbert does not need to score 20+ points a game for the team to win. They can rely on any of their other starters to put up points, but nobody impacts the defensive rim like Hibbert. You can't deny his blocks per game. He impacts so much, much more than just scoring offense..

I would rather take a team-oriented center rather than a prima donna worried about his personal stats any day.
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Old 11-16-2013, 02:37 AM   #49
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Default Re: Let s be real: Hibbert is the best center in the league

Best center in the League? Fine. I guess the best center in the League is also like the 20th AT BEST player in the League. Weak era for centers.
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Old 11-16-2013, 03:09 AM   #51
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Best center in the League? Fine. I guess the best center in the League is also like the 20th AT BEST player in the League. Weak era for centers.

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Old 11-16-2013, 05:10 AM   #52
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Default Re: Let s be real: Hibbert is the best center in the league

Best defensively

He hasn't scored many points but hasn't needed to.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:32 AM   #53
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So shaq was never the best center in the league?


Note: I am not saying Dwight is close to Shaq. Just pointing out that being a bad FT shooter does not exclude one from being the best center in the league.
Shaq was the most dominant offensive force in basketball history. Shaq had amazing fundamentals and loads of post moves.

I am disgusted you can compare Scrub Howard with The Big Aristotle.

Teams hacked Shaq but it didnt matter, he was so strong he's still get the and-1 at a really high rate so it didnt matter so much he missed freethrows.

D12 is not that dominant, can't pass, and turns the ball over way more. Also Dwight is undersized center and Shaq was huge. Horrible comparison.

A better comparison for Dwight is prime Ben Wallace.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:38 AM   #54
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still over howard


But I'm looking at Howard's stats and he's averaging 14 rebounds. Scoring more points that Hibbert as well, which would suggest Howard is still the best individual center in the league.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:58 AM   #55
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Default Re: Let s be real: Hibbert is the best center in the league

He's Mutumbo 2.0. wears 55 and everything. see you haters at the HOF induction.

WHO WANTS TO SEX THE HIBBERT?!

also, jesus, HOORAY COUNTING STATS! basketball needs an MLB style statistical revolution, an that's in no way related to me being a Pacers fan.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:05 AM   #56
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Default Re: Let s be real: Hibbert is the best center in the league

Let's compare these guys:

SCORING:
Dwight - 17.1 , Hibbert - 11.4


Seems like a clear advantage for Dwight,doesn't it ? Well,not exactly.
Dwight takes more field goal attempts per game and what people forget to mention,he takes A LOT more free throws (10 versus 3). Also if you consider that the Pacers are playing slow,grind it out type of basketball and the Rockets run a lot which puts Dwight into easier positions to score than Hibbert.
Also,let's not forget Dwight got owned by Andrea Bargnani both on offense and defense.

REBOUNDING:
Dwight - 14.9 , Hibbert 8.9


Seems like a clear advantage for Dwight but if you look at their contested rebound percentage it's about the same. Dwight plays 7 more minutes too.

BLOCKING:
Dwight - 2.5 , Hibbert 4.8


Clear advantage for Hibbert. Also if you look at their opponent FG% at the rim Hibbert has a clear advantage,33.8% while Dwight's opponent score 47.4% of times at the rim. That's worse than Bargnani's 43.5%

Also factor in that Hibbert isn't a cancer and is actually a serious basketball player who isn't taking every opportunity to goof around.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:25 AM   #57
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Default Re: Let s be real: Hibbert is the best center in the league

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Let's compare these guys:

SCORING:
Dwight - 17.1 , Hibbert - 11.4


Seems like a clear advantage for Dwight,doesn't it ? Well,not exactly.
Dwight takes more field goal attempts per game and what people forget to mention,he takes A LOT more free throws (10 versus 3). Also if you consider that the Pacers are playing slow,grind it out type of basketball and the Rockets run a lot which puts Dwight into easier positions to score than Hibbert.
Also,let's not forget Dwight got owned by Andrea Bargnani both on offense and defense.

REBOUNDING:
Dwight - 14.9 , Hibbert 8.9


Seems like a clear advantage for Dwight but if you look at their contested rebound percentage it's about the same. Dwight plays 7 more minutes too.

BLOCKING:
Dwight - 2.5 , Hibbert 4.8


Clear advantage for Hibbert. Also if you look at their opponent FG% at the rim Hibbert has a clear advantage,33.8% while Dwight's opponent score 47.4% of times at the rim. That's worse than Bargnani's 43.5%

Also factor in that Hibbert isn't a cancer and is actually a serious basketball player who isn't taking every opportunity to goof around.



Well, Hibbert has some baggage too. He has used homophobic slurs.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:58 AM   #58
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Default Re: Let s be real: Hibbert is the best center in the league

i think he could be but he is not there right now... sometimes when i watch this guy i wonder how the hell isnt he dominating and averaging like 20/10... but sometimes he completely disappears and is a huge liability on offense.. like the games against the heat..
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:05 AM   #59
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Clear advantage for Hibbert. Also if you look at their opponent FG% at the rim Hibbert has a clear advantage,33.8% while Dwight's opponent score 47.4% of times at the rim. That's worse than Bargnani's 43.5%

Also factor in that Hibbert isn't a cancer and is actually a serious basketball player who isn't taking every opportunity to goof around.
Key stat right there. No one is afraid of Dwight Coward anymore. He is no longer DPoTY level center.

People always talk about him 'altering shots' and yet all of last year I've seen some of the scrubbiest scrubs in the league taking it hard to him at the rim and he was unable to do anything about it.

Statistically Bargnani is a better interior defender then Dwight, says it all really. Dwightmare is living off a reputation from 4 years ago.
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Default Re: Let s be real: Hibbert is the best center in the league

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Shaq was the most dominant offensive force in basketball history. Shaq had amazing fundamentals and loads of post moves.

I am disgusted you can compare Scrub Howard with The Big Aristotle.

Teams hacked Shaq but it didnt matter, he was so strong he's still get the and-1 at a really high rate so it didnt matter so much he missed freethrows.

D12 is not that dominant, can't pass, and turns the ball over way more. Also Dwight is undersized center and Shaq was huge. Horrible comparison.

A better comparison for Dwight is prime Ben Wallace.

Well said.
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