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Old 01-21-2014, 01:44 PM   #121
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Hehe are you serious?? Nobody judges these all time greats based on ANYTHING else BUT majors

NEVER heard that before.

Agreed with him pushing rafa, but clearly hes not as consistent as 2011 anymore.
that's crazy. but i guess if you know almost nothing about the tennis season, then saying that "the only thing that counts is majors" makes sense.

overall ATP points, number of titles, match records, masters tournaments (incl. the year-ender) are all heavy factors.

ATP points are arguably more important than majors, since majors are directly represented in the point system (2000).

majors don't even mean the same thing, over the decades. not so long ago there were two cycles of majors, and they didn't even let pros play the current set!
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Old 01-21-2014, 01:51 PM   #122
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that's crazy. but i guess if you know almost nothing about the tennis season, then saying that "the only thing that counts is majors" makes sense.

overall ATP points, number of titles, match records, masters tournaments (incl. the year-ender) are all heavy factors.

ATP points are arguably more important than majors, since majors are directly represented in the point system (2000).

majors don't even mean the same thing, over the decades. not so long ago there were two cycles of majors, and they didn't even let pros play the current set!

lol, Marcelo Rios was a #1 ranked player at one time and never won a slam. Thomas Johannsson and Gaston Gaudio never came close to that but they'll always be known for winning a slam.

Masters tournaments are nice paydays and have a lot of implications in the rankings but in the end, slams are and will continue to be the defining accomplishment that tennis players' careers are judged by.

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Old 01-21-2014, 02:05 PM   #123
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lol, Marcelo Rios was a #1 ranked player at one time and never won a slam. Thomas Johannsson and Gaston Gaudio never came close to that but they'll always be known for winning a slam.

Masters tournaments are nice paydays and have a lot of implications in the rankings but in the end, slams are and will continue to be the defining accomplishment that tennis players' careers are judged by.
i never said it was a perfect system. just look at wozniacki. worst #1 player of all time AFAIK.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:06 PM   #124
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lol, Marcelo Rios was a #1 ranked player at one time and never won a slam. Thomas Johannsson and Gaston Gaudio never came close to that but they'll always be known for winning a slam.

Masters tournaments are nice paydays and have a lot of implications in the rankings but in the end, slams are and will continue to be the defining accomplishment that tennis players' careers are judged by.

Add Albert Costa to the trio and we can debate who is the worst player ever to win a major.
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:06 PM   #125
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that's crazy. but i guess if you know almost nothing about the tennis season, then saying that "the only thing that counts is majors" makes sense.

overall ATP points, number of titles, match records, masters tournaments (incl. the year-ender) are all heavy factors.

ATP points are arguably more important than majors, since majors are directly represented in the point system (2000).

majors don't even mean the same thing, over the decades. not so long ago there were two cycles of majors, and they didn't even let pros play the current set!

Just like Grinder said, you're talking way out of your ass. Nr.1 requirement is Majors, rest way below.

Its basically majors&weeks as nr.1, then everybody makes their case for each player and explains why he maybe didnt win as much...

LMFAOO at their being in some all time comparison, and the dude says "djokovich won a 500 in 2012, he was great!"

atp points more important

Dude, just leave it, talk basketball and thats it.
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:07 PM   #126
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lol, Marcelo Rios was a #1 ranked player at one time and never won a slam. Thomas Johannsson and Gaston Gaudio never came close to that but they'll always be known for winning a slam.

Masters tournaments are nice paydays and have a lot of implications in the rankings but in the end, slams are and will continue to be the defining accomplishment that tennis players' careers are judged by.

This. x100. Dont know what hes thinking, at this point he defends his statement but even he knows its crap.
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:13 PM   #127
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Just like Grinder said, you're talking way out of your ass. Nr.1 requirement is Majors, rest way below.

Its basically majors&weeks as nr.1, then everybody makes their case for each player and explains why he maybe didnt win as much...

LMFAOO at their being in some all time comparison, and the dude says "djokovich won a 500 in 2012, he was great!"

atp points more important

Dude, just leave it, talk basketball and thats it.
question-- in your little black-and-white world, what happens when you occasionally glimpse a shade of grey or god forbid, an actual color?

do you go running and screaming, or do you just slam down the visor a little more firmly...?
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:29 PM   #128
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The Stanimal! best swiss player alive today!
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Old 01-22-2014, 02:30 AM   #129
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Dimitrov had the 3rd set and gave it away. Now Rafa gonna finish him off.

Federer vs. Murray coming up next. Let's go Fed!
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:05 AM   #130
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Nadal looked horrible that match and still won. Stuff of legends. Although going forward, that blister looks bad. Caused him to make so many errors. It's better than having knee problems though.

Hope Fed wins so we can see that Fedal match... although at this point those are getting easier and easier for Nadal.
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:24 AM   #131
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Damn i actually hoped Grisho could take him out. Next time.
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Damn i actually hoped Grisho could take him out. Next time.
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:00 AM   #133
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Federer better not blow this.
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Christ Fed.
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Old 01-22-2014, 07:09 AM   #135
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The fed man is back(kind of). It's unlikely but if he wins this after going through this lineup it's his best slam
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