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Old 01-15-2014, 07:42 PM   #16
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And people don't see pregnancy or birth as a hardship for women for some reason. It's baffling. They really are like children, themselves first always. As men.
So you wouldn't spend 9 months slightly handicapped to make 5-10k a month doing nothing for the next 18 years of your life?
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:43 PM   #17
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I will say after watching the vid I do kinda feel bad for the girl though. "I just want him to love our child like I do" is awfully sad.
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I will say after watching the vid I do kinda feel bad for the girl though. "I just want him to love our child like I do" is awfully sad.
It's fake. She's trying to gain sympathy and it's working on you.
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It's fake. She's trying to gain sympathy and it's working on you.
I don't think my sympathy is going to help her to much kid.
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And people don't see pregnancy or birth as a hardship for women for some reason. It's baffling. They really are like children, themselves first always. As men.

Some of the posters on this site are in for a very rude awakening...lol
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I don't think my sympathy is going to help her to much kid.
Agreed.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:48 PM   #22
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You serious? I mean, it's human nature to have sex. I'd go insane if I didn't have sex with people I'd prefer not to get pregnant. The volume of girls out there I'd have a kid with is not exactly huge.
OP is right. It's weird to give the woman the right to both $ for the child and absolute say over whether to have the kid. Pick one or the other.


Even if you want to bring "thought experiment logic" into this instead of common sense, the woman still wins.

Only two people can make a baby. So if each person gets one vote, how do you split a tie?

Well the woman has more to lose. She can lose her life. The man can only lose money. So her vote is going to be weighted more heavily.

Therefore she's always going to win in a vote head up against a man.


Beyond that, how do you prevent a woman from getting an abortion and then just saying she had a miscarriage? You gonna put surveillance on her 24/7?


The kind of idealism demonstrated by OP and aversion to practicality is exactly what causes so many of the issues our country constantly wastes time debating over en masse.
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:49 PM   #23
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And people don't see pregnancy or birth as a hardship for women for some reason. It's baffling. They really are like children, themselves first always. As men.
Let's flip it. What if the man wants the child and the woman doesn't?
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Funny when people like miller time, rmwg, niko say things like "hey man, dudes gotta take responsibility!"

These are the exact same people who want the government to slowly subsidize individual responsibility in exchange for centralized power and authority. You think politicians aren't thrilled to make that exchange? They're only 1 of 300,000,000 tax payers. They're 1 of like 600 policy makers.


Do the math you loser ass f@ggots.
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Even if you want to bring "thought experiment logic" into this instead of common sense, the woman still wins.

Only two people can make a baby. So if each person gets one vote, how do you split a tie?

Well the woman has more to lose. She can lose her life. The man can only lose money. So her vote is going to be weighted more heavily.

Therefore she's always going to win in a vote head up against a man.


Beyond that, how do you prevent a woman from getting an abortion and then just saying she had a miscarriage? You gonna put surveillance on her 24/7?


The kind of idealism demonstrated by OP and aversion to practicality is exactly what causes so many of the issues our country constantly wastes time debating over en masse.
The problem isn't giving the woman the right to make the choice. Its the right to make the choice and then monetizing the child on top of it.
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The problem isn't giving the woman the right to make the choice. Its the right to make the choice and then monetizing the child on top of it.
This is true.
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So you wouldn't spend 9 months slightly handicapped to make 5-10k a month doing nothing for the next 18 years of your life?
Do you think a groupie looking for a payday is a good example to use to take away woman's rights?

You can't have a baby. You can't say "if i could be pregnant", you can't. You're not a woman. Apparently a lot of you are not men either, but you are not women.
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because condoms are bulletproof and and whatever niko said makes sense. some people are just so high and mighty like shit couldn't have happened to them. smh.


child support for the rich is borderline extortion and it should be capped. there is no way child support should be enough for people to live an extravagant life off of it.
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because condoms are bulletproof
No, just a 98% success rate.

If you don't use protection and you have a baby you have a responsibility. If you aren't capable of handling that, don't do things that get women pregnant. It really is that simple.
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because condoms are bulletproof and and whatever niko said makes sense. some people are just so high and mighty like shit couldn't have happened to them. smh.


child support for the rich is borderline extortion and it should be capped. there is no way child support should be enough for people to live an extravagant life off of it.
I remember the Rae Carruth trial. Someone made mention that he was paying his other childs mother 15 thousand dollars a month. But his child shared a bedroom with his half-sibling. The mother didn't work, her boyfriend didnt either. But they both drove expensive cars and lived lavish lifestyles.

The way the system is set up is unfair to men. I have a friend that is still obligated to pay child support for a child he found out wasnt his. And he has no legal recourse. Women are just as responsible for getting pregnant as the men that impregnate them.
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