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Old 01-15-2014, 08:24 PM   #31
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Arian Foster punked himself. He most likely let his urges translate into a shit show public scandal. Even as a man, I'm not gunna cry foul for his extended poor judgment. Dude's a millionaire, reap what u sow for goin hunting for snow bunnies
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No, just a 98% success rate.

If you don't use protection and you have a baby you have a responsibility. If you aren't capable of handling that, don't do things that get women pregnant. It really is that simple.
So what culpability does the woman have?
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:28 PM   #33
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So what culpability does the woman have?
The same as the man. What's your point? Really, you don't have one. Nature has made it so that only one sex can get pregnant. The law will never absolve men of their responsibility in that situation, as your poor Rae Carruth knows.
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:33 PM   #34
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No, just a 98% success rate.

If you don't use protection and you have a baby you have a responsibility. If you aren't capable of handling that, don't do things that get women pregnant. It really is that simple.
It's actually 80-85% or something.
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:37 PM   #35
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I have a friend that is still obligated to pay child support for a child he found out wasnt his. And he has no legal recourse. Women are just as responsible for getting pregnant as the men that impregnate them
This is probably the most ****ed up thing I've heard about on this subject. Idk how that hasnt been changed yet.
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The same as the man. What's your point? Really, you don't have one. Nature has made it so that only one sex can get pregnant. The law will never absolve men of their responsibility in that situation, as your poor Rae Carruth knows.
Its not a point. Its a question. You are blaming the man for the irresponsibility of two people. Why?

And your not arguing thats its because of the laws of the land, youre arguing based on a moral issue. The way women are treated in the middle east is atrocious. But its the law. Does that make it right?

Im not arguing for the plight of Rae Carruth. What I am saying is that your stance is the reason a women died at the hands of him.
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It's actually 80-85% or something.
98% when used correctly.
Of course, with some of the things we see written in this thread it would not surprise me if a sizable portion of the population is not using them correctly.
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Its not a point. Its a question. You are blaming the man for the irresponsibility of two people. Why?
Because he's responsible. The woman is as well. And?
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And your not arguing thats its because of the laws of the land, youre arguing based on a moral issue. The way women are treated in the middle east is atrocious. But its the law. Does that make it right?
I'm fully capable of pointing out both that a man that abandons a woman with his child is lacking a moral core as well as pointing out that our laws will never take your side.

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Im not arguing for the plight of Rae Carruth. What I am saying is that your stance is the reason a women died at the hands of him.
Then you're an idiot.
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98% when used correctly.
Of course, with some of the things we see written in this thread it would not surprise me if a sizable portion of the population is not using them correctly.
Idk how you can **** up using condoms, but regardless the real failure rate is 18%. I just looked it up. A theoretical number is pretty much useless.
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This is probably the most ****ed up thing I've heard about on this subject. Idk how that hasnt been changed yet.
Preach brotha. But then men are looked down upon if they demand a paternity test. Men can't win in this situation
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The way the system is set up is unfair to men. I have a friend that is still obligated to pay child support for a child he found out wasnt his. And he has no legal recourse. Women are just as responsible for getting pregnant as the men that impregnate them.

If he can prove via paternity test that the child is not his he has no responsibility for the child

And yes women are responsible, they're the one that will be taking care of the child the next 16 plus years
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Idk how you can **** up using condoms, but regardless the real failure rate is 18%. I just looked it up. A theoretical number is pretty much useless.
It shows what happens when they're used correctly. Just because you're more likely to crash when you drive drunk doesn't mean the car is flawed.
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It shows what happens when they're used correctly. Just because you're more likely to crash when you drive drunk doesn't mean the car is flawed.
Drunk driving is counted in accident statistics.
And I highly doubt it's really 98% with condom breaks.
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Because he's responsible. The woman is as well. And?
I'm fully capable of pointing out both that a man that abandons a woman with his child is lacking a moral core as well as pointing out that our laws will never take your side.


Then you're an idiot.
No ones arguing the laws of the land. Including you. What you doing is backpedaling. Your original argument was that of a moral issue. Not what the law is. And in typical fashion, when a leftists has no viable argument left, return an insult. Nice job
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Drunk driving is counted in accident statistics.
And I highly doubt it's really 98% with condom breaks.
You're really arguing with the World Health Organization? They conducted a study and found that the failure rate was 2% when the condom was used right. And just to defend my precious analogy, drunk driving would be flawed condom use.
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