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Old 01-19-2014, 01:15 PM   #46
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmStcAnjOqA heres Eric Boulton vs Jay Rosehill from last night, 2 guys going toe to toe and letting them fly look how much energy the fight gave the crowd which in return has an effect on the players and they flyers came back and won the game.
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Old 01-19-2014, 01:15 PM   #47
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So one single person said it, it must be true?
No, of course not, I was simply challenging his stance.
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because no one gives a shit about hockey


The NHL currently selling out more arenas than the NBA.

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Old 01-19-2014, 01:31 PM   #49
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The NHL currently selling out more arenas than the NBA.

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Yeah hockey is bigger than most people realize. I went to a hockey school. When we traveled [the b ball team] we ate Arby's and Subway and when they traveled they ate steak and shrimp.

*Mind you they've won so many state titles that we have to have our B team compete for state while our A team travels the country and our b ball team has never won state.
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A little fighting is good to clear emotions in a game.. in an NBA game players hold back until theyre really sick of whats ever going on and they explode causing a big scuffle spreading across the court

There's ettiquette in hockey fighting.. theyre on skates so its always in a small stretch of ice, they throw punches and grab/block.. its pretty simple on skates. First to go down and fight is over. No 'retaliation' or gang jumpings. Its fair and settles the dispute and makes sure pent up rage doesnt make a player do something he may regret.

When youre out on a bball court you could have these guys chasing each other going everywhere, diving at each other, running around.. its just too wild and uncontrolled. Plus there would be no ettituquette like in hockey.. and they dont have pads and helmets on so it would likely be more dangerous. Just not a good idea for basketball based on how it operates

You mean like beating someone over the head with a stick?
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One would thinking having gloves, sticks and fighting on ice would be more dangerous than hardwood.

Players almost never fight with their sticks. It will get you suspended or banned and in some cases arrested.

The reason fighting is considered part of the game is the sticks. People use their sticks all the time in ways the refs don't catch. The argument is guys would use their sticks way too much during the game if they could do it and not face a beating.

Imagine a coach facing a prime Wayne Gretzky? He could tell his players just to slash at Gretzky. What's a couple of penalties vs taking out the greatest player ever? The reason fighting is somewhat sanctioned in hockey is the sticks.
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Old 01-19-2014, 01:55 PM   #52
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Players almost never fight with their sticks. It will get you suspended or banned and in some cases arrested.

The reason fighting is considered part of the game is the sticks. People use their sticks all the time in ways the refs don't catch. The argument is guys would use their sticks way too much during the game if they could do it and not face a beating.

Imagine a coach facing a prime Wayne Gretzky? He could tell his players just to slash at Gretzky. What's a couple of penalties vs taking out the greatest player ever? The reason fighting is somewhat sanctioned in hockey is the sticks.


So with the cameras and technology we have now [I can see what you mean when referring to the 60s-80's] why can't that be cleaned up through the league office?
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Old 01-19-2014, 03:45 PM   #53
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So much ignorance in this thread about hockey...if you take the time to learn about the sport it can be very, very fun to watch. I hear it's very fun to play as well however I couldn't do it because I value my teeth too much. I personally think it's more entertaining than baseball.
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Old 01-19-2014, 03:47 PM   #54
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So much ignorance in this thread about hockey...if you take the time to learn about the sport it can be very, very fun to watch. I hear it's very fun to play as well however I couldn't do it because I value my teeth too much. I personally think it's more entertaining than baseball.

Well then educate us.
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Well then educate us.

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Old 01-19-2014, 04:57 PM   #56
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Hockey players who brawl are looked at as goons.
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Old 01-19-2014, 05:05 PM   #57
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It's strategic. If a team's energy is dormant or seeming nonchalant, a goon or intimidator will bite the bullet and start a fist fight, hopeully to energize his team with some tenacity. Players always react to a fight, a good one no doubt gets them fired up even more than a lame, scripted one.

There's your answer.

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Dudes have big padded gloves and helmets on.
They are on ice skates.
There is a glass barrier between fans and players.
Fights are mostly one on one.

Gloves and helmets are shedded when they fight. Once in a while, a helmet may stay on but they usually get thrown off
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Not about hockey you buffoon about the ignorance in your fellow posters remarks.
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I'm saying that NBA/NFL players have a small skirmish and they are fined, looked down upon, and called thugs[/B]. Hockey players do it an they are called tough.

I can see why fighting isn't permitted in the NBA...the game revolves around flow.

I can see why fighting isn't allowed in the NFL....it would be pandemonium.

What I can't see is why NFL players, who push and shove each other all game, are fined and hyper surveilled when it comes to physicality...if the NFL had a fight like this it would be the opening story on every sports news show...people would be questioning their morals for wasting the fans money and all that.


This is your main motivation for creating the thread. You just want another circumstance in life to be able to cry unequal racial perception. "When blacks fight, they are thugs, why can't the white hockey guys be seen as lowly goons too wah wah wah wah."

Hockey is a rough, contact sport. Whether you know anything about how the game works or not, fighting serves a legit purpose for the guys playing. It's not JUST for the fans and entertainment.

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