At worst, Manning is #3. He's the GOAT in my mind, but if people want to put him 2 or 3, then fine. Anything else is ignorance. How do you overcome the whole 5 MVP thing? That alone pretty much kicks any argument against him right in the teeth. To round out the rest of the top 5 it would be Montana, Marino, Brady in some sort of order, and then I'm not sure who the 5th would be. Probably Favre or Unitas.
But as stated, it's rather difficult to compare QBs from different eras. Otto Graham led his team to the championship game in all 10 years of his career winning 7 of them, but it wasn't in da Suuuuper Boooowl era, so for some reason it doesn't really 'count' to some. The Super Bowl is just an overhyped game that they did an incredible job of marketing, so much so that some foolishly treat it as if it's the only thing that matters when comparing QBs. You have a rather weak argument and all you can do is hide behind 'Super Bowl', and it's kind of sad. The NFL marketing team has you brainwashed.
Probably because the championship game is only equivalent to the NFC title game today.
How is Elway better then Favre when Favre has better career stats, more accolades and Elway only has one more SB than him? Please educate me, because the Elway I saw play had a stacked team, and even back then I thought Favre was better.
The also played around the same era, so don't give me that different era crap
It's some kind of revisionist history bullshit. People are making Marino, Elway, and Montana all out to be much better than they were, and you can tell that 95% of them never even saw any of them play, or they are just completely blowing smoke up all of their asses.
It's mostly done though it seems to downgrade guys like Brady and Favre in the all time rankings, but strangely enough, never is it done to downgrade the golden messiah of Manning.
Favre is also better than Elway,not on pure skills but overall
To say Brady > Montana is homerism at its finest and screams idiocy. Certainly no surprise here coming from you. Not only does Montana make SBs... he wins them... all of them. You could make the argument Brady and the Pats should have an *asterisk* beside their rings/titles. This isn't Brady's fault, but it's still a factor to be considered, and even if you throw the cheating scandals out the window Montana is still getting the nod (not by much though) over Brady as GOAT. With the cheating conspiracies and all still in play, it's a no-brainer that Montana > Brady. Your Brady > all is laughable at best. Just imagine how many additional SBs Montana could have made/won if Bill was the 49ers coach during Montana's era?
If I were Brady I'd be disgusted knowing my championships are somewhat tainted. If I were a NE fan I'd be as equally disgusted too, but here you are, like it's no big deal. You probably don't even acknowledge it ever happened - brushing it off like it's some myth made up fairy tale because if it were true (which it is) it would crush your soul and those memories from back when you six or seven years old and they got their first title in the early 2000's would haunt you. Your world and mental stability would all come crashing down if you let even the slightest bit of truth enter your frail protected wanna be not real championships obtained by cheating world.
And nobody even mentions it when talking about Elway now.
that just flat out sucks in ANY era...I knew Elway's numbers were poor but had not seen his SB numbers isolated like that...that's awful
his post season numbers in general are poor for his era as well, a 67 rating in this era would make a case for worst QB in the NFL.
His career numbers are pretty baffling because I watched Elway's entire career and know he was an elite QB. Looking at those SB numbers makes me want to rewatch his SB games though, because I just don't see how it is possible for him to throw 8 INTs and only 3 TDs and have played "good". He does have a SB MVP to his name though.
To say Brady > Montana is homerism at its finest and screams idiocy. Certainly no surprise here coming from you. Not only does Montana make SBs... he wins them... all of them.
Montana has gotten blown out in the playoffs multiple times
Bill Cowher(Former Steelers coach) on spygate:
I think if they’re guilty of anything, they’re guilty of arrogance, because they were told not to do something. But it was something that everybody does. The only thing they got caught [was] doing it with a camera. We had people that always tried to steal signals. Stealing someone’s signals was a part of the game, and everybody attempted to do that."
But what am i doing arguing with a dumbass like you anyways
Every great QB has had postseason flameouts at some point, if you wanna go down that road, but in the Super Bowl, Montana is a perfect 4 for 4. Brady, Manning, and elway have lost multiple Super Bowls. This is what seperates Montana from these other guys.