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Old 03-09-2014, 01:39 PM   #46
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Default Re: does anyone not have Brady as their top 2 QB all time?

Yeah, because Brady has been so much better and accomplished from when the question was posed?

Brady:

1 MVP
1 All Pro
1 Superbowl Appearance

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Old 03-09-2014, 02:26 PM   #47
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Default Re: does anyone not have Brady as their top 2 QB all time?

Brady 3 rings

Manning 1. 2 horrible fails. Lol.

Brady's Super Bowl losses were close even. M

lol. Manning kinda like Barkley.
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:13 PM   #48
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Default Re: does anyone not have Brady as their top 2 QB all time?

So Bradshaw > Brady?

Marino not one of the best ever?
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So Bradshaw > Brady?

Marino not one of the best ever?
No but when you compare the greats, it's a combination of both.
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Old 03-09-2014, 04:20 PM   #50
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So two more superbowls offsets the 7 more All-Pros, 3 MVPs, Passing Yard/TD record in both single season and soon to be career to the point of not only being equals, but Brady being better all-time?
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Old 03-09-2014, 04:34 PM   #51
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Basketball, where one player had a far more dramatic impact on a game/team/winning than football has had Wilt/Russell debates for years and years and years.

Russell had 9 more titles than Wilt and had more regular season MVP's and surely way more Finals MVPs, yet some (highly respected) people prefer Wilt all-time. If I had to say, it's probably a 50-50 split in that debate.

Brady literally has two more superbowls and 1 superbowl MVP on the resume, everything else Manning had a significant lead in but Brady is clearly ahead? People give the rolling head laughing icon when someone suggests Peyton is #2?

How does that make sense?
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Default Re: does anyone not have Brady as their top 2 QB all time?

Kareem has more mvps than jordan, same number of rings, leads all time scoring and was considered to be the most dominant force in the nba, yet Jordan is the consensus goat

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Jordan has 6 titles as the man, Kareem 4 at most.

Jordan 6 FMVP, Kareem 2.

Jordan DPOY, Kareem not.

Jordan 8 more scoring titles.

....and you still get the odd guy here and there who would rank Kareem at the GOAT. You wouldn't get much of an argument from unbiased people.
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I would expect him to have the single season records considering he threw the ball 659 times and had 4 stud options to throw to.
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Default Re: does anyone not have Brady as their top 2 QB all time?

Lol.

Jordan is perfect example.


His production and clutchness went up when it counted most.

Same with Brady. Smh.

And yes , two more rings outweigh the HORRIBLE fails by manning in playoffs.

How many one and dones did he have?? Lol.

Goat regular season Qb. No way goat goat. Top 2.
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Default Re: does anyone not have Brady as their top 2 QB all time?

Just by numbers, favre > manning


Same Super Bowl victories. Better winning percentage in Super Bowls.

More yards and more Tds.

Favre > manning then according to the carbine way. Smh
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Peyton has two more MVP's and four more 1st Team All Pros, plus the single season records. That's pretty significant.
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Peyton has two more MVP's and four more 1st Team All Pros, plus the single season records. That's pretty significant.
Lol.

You ARE stuck on stats. Smh.

Didn't it hurt year after year after year (except one) watching Peyton have all those stats but then get smacked in playoffs?

It had to.
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You're the one saying Favre > Manning judging by stats. All I did was show you that was wrong.
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You're the one saying Favre > Manning judging by stats. All I did was show you that was wrong.
We are typing.

Lol.

By your standards favre > manning has merit.

More career Tds and yards. Arguably. Same rings.

But somehow it's preposterous that favre > manning?

Get over it Brady > manning.

And all those losses in playoffs SHOULD hurt. REAL bad.

If I was a colt fan id be fed up with manning.

Years of "stars wars " regular season stats, then choking in the playoffs.

I guess that's where we differ.

You care about stats, I care about winning.

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