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Old 02-27-2014, 02:38 PM   #31
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Can they move the Knicks to New Jersey...Seattle?
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:44 PM   #32
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There's nothing to prove superstars want to go to New York either, outside of Amare who had 1 good season and then his knees gave out.

Yes there is. There is a massive financial incentive. Players want to play in NY in every sport. Just recently, Melo forced his way there. LeBron almost signed there but didn't because he realized how much of a joke the organization is.

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They've been in LA since the 84-85 season. 29 seasons is "relatively new" ? The fans of LA can switch or be a fan of both teams. I've seen clips of this. The Lakers weren't dominating the 90's when Magic and Worthy were gone and the Clippers didn't "take over".
Okay so maybe they aren't that new but they have to compete with the Lakers who have built up a massive following. Besides, the Clippers are at least in good shape NOW.
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:17 PM   #33
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Not the worst, but it is badly run. The fans are starving for any kind of success, we go nuts if they are supposed to be contenders in the playoffs. True Knicks fans won't jump on the stupid Nets bandwagon.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:05 PM   #34
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Not the worst, but it is badly run. The fans are starving for any kind of success, we go nuts if they are supposed to be contenders in the playoffs. True Knicks fans won't jump on the stupid Nets bandwagon.

This is true. First superstar that delivers a title to New York gets a statue at MSG. They would only have to win once for that treatment.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:27 PM   #35
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Seattle and Cleveland sports

like 1 o r 2 titles in there history and been around 70 years

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Old 02-27-2014, 04:31 PM   #36
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Nah... there are far worse franchises in sports, and even in the NBA. They are awful though. At least NYers have the Yankees and Giants.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:45 PM   #37
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like 1 o r 2 titles in there history and been around 70 years
Nobody wants to play in Seattle or Cleveland. They're a victim of circumstance not because their organizations are utter crap.
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Nobody wants to play in Seattle or Cleveland. They're a victim of circumstance not because their organizations are utter crap.

no1 wants to play in okc but there a great team and will be 4 awhile

jus like how no1 wanted to play in utah but were a great tm 4 15+ years


If ur not a attractive city or market u have to build thru draft and hire a great staff

browns raiders bills all teams who r utter crap because they r terrible drafters and terrible at evaluating personnel
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There's nothing to prove superstars want to go to New York either, outside of Amare who had 1 good season and then his knees gave out.



They've been in LA since the 84-85 season. 29 seasons is "relatively new" ? The fans of LA can switch or be a fan of both teams. I've seen clips of this. The Lakers weren't dominating the 90's when Magic and Worthy were gone and the Clippers didn't "take over".

Superstars definitely prefer playing in New York to Toronto though

Maybe Wiggins will sign with Toronto during his FA.
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no1 wants to play in okc but there a great team and will be 4 awhile

jus like how no1 wanted to play in utah but were a great tm 4 15+ years


If ur not a attractive city or market u have to build thru draft and hire a great staff

browns raiders bills all teams who r utter crap because they r terrible drafters and terrible at evaluating personnel

No doubt the browns/raiders/bills are mismanaged but it's not as bad as the Knicks because it's more difficult to run those organiztions (i.e attract big names) than it is for the Knicks.
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:31 PM   #41
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This is true. First superstar that delivers a title to New York gets a statue at MSG. They would only have to win once for that treatment.
Anyone who helps deliver a championship to a starving franchise in NY (Knicks, Jets, Mets, Rangers) will never have to pay for their own drink in this town. I'm sure it's that way for Mark Messier. Whoever that guy is, I will personally pay for and do his laundry for a year. Make it happen
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Anyone who helps deliver a championship to a starving franchise in NY (Knicks, Jets, Mets, Rangers) will never have to pay for their own drink in this town. I'm sure it's that way for Mark Messier. Whoever that guy is, I will personally pay for and do his laundry for a year. Make it happen

Rangers n mets arent really starving like Jets and nyk
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Yes there is. There is a massive financial incentive. Players want to play in NY in every sport. Just recently, Melo forced his way there. LeBron almost signed there but didn't because he realized how much of a joke the organization is.

This isn't about other sports. It's about the Knicks basketball team. Melo forcing his way there probably played large part in due to his wife wanting to be there. If James realized the franchise is a joke, then that just proves that market size and financial incentive doesn't matter, especially not to somebody like James.


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Okay so maybe they aren't that new but they have to compete with the Lakers who have built up a massive following. Besides, the Clippers are at least in good shape NOW.

On that note, Clippers should be in the mindset to challenge for titles every year now. They've been in the cellar for so long, it's time to take that huge step.
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:55 PM   #44
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They really should have given Riley the power he wanted and not let him leave. Imagine if Riley had the power in NY that he has had in Miami all this time. The Knicks would probably have won 6 or 7 more titles by now.
I don't know about all those rings - but they certainly would have been much better. I must say tho - Starks and Mason were Riley's boys, so Mr. Armani has come a long way too.
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Not the worst, but it is badly run. The fans are starving for any kind of success, we go nuts if they are supposed to be contenders in the playoffs. True Knicks fans won't jump on the stupid Nets bandwagon.

Nyetskis?? Hell no, son!
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