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Old 04-07-2014, 07:30 PM   #31
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Default Re: Current Durant or prime Kobe--who you got?

i dont buy into the reg. season vs. playoff comparison... and i don't buy into the fact that kobe needs help to win. i mean, who doesnt? this argument has already been hashed out millions of times on this forum. Almost every championship team that has won has had at least a minimal of two all stars, if not potential hall of fame players.

Durant is accompanied by one of the best PG in the game, and probably the best defensive PF in the league. He has had James Harden, Kevin Martin played along him over the past few years, which both are more than capable of putting up 20+ any given night. So please tell me, how much more help does he really need in order for him to win?

As for this whole Durant is a better reg. season player, I mean, yes in terms of scoring, I think Durant is about as complete of an offensive basketball player as anyone that ever laced it up. Overall, offense/defense, not even close. Sure a lot of us are questioning Kobe's defense over the past 3-4 years. But Kobe for about a better part of his career can lock down 1-on-1 on any player.
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:32 PM   #32
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OKC fans/KD Stans which are really Kobe stans dodging this thread.

We all know Laker/Kobe stans hate LBJ and so they prop up Durant as a way of hating on LeBron.

Do you want to know the fastest way to get the Kobe stans/Laker fans to stop it?

Start saying Durant, right now, is better than Kobe ever was and will pass Kobe on the all time list. Start putting Durant vs Kobe. Watch them back off :
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:38 PM   #33
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I'm not talking who has a better career, I thought we were just comparing who is a better basketball player in their primes.

If someone said "mt Everest is the tallest mountain" before it was measured and proven would they be wrong? No mt Everest height stayed the same and was taller before and after it was proven. Just because phstically it had the highest height. That same way Durant is a better player because he plays basketball better. Don't gotta prove it

We are.

My point is we can't possibly know that at this point.

We just obviously differ on this...and honestly I don't see your side of it. If Durant can't win a title with this group he has...how can one say he's better at basketball than Kobe? That doesn't make sense to me.

I'm accused of being a stats only guy...etc. But that isn't the case. Durant has a loaded team...every bit as good as Kobe's teams in 09 and 10 when healthy. Kobe made 3 finals and won back to back titles.

I need to see something along those lines from Durant if I'm going to put him on that level...as a basketball player.

Right now I don't think we can do that...

If Durant was on KG level Minny teams or something...then we'd have to really debate this. Now that KD plays on a stacked team...we don't. We get to compare stats and objective things...and see how KD does as a leader of a top team in the league. And that is a good thing...we get the answers...they are coming.

How players do on title capable teams with loaded talent like the Thunder is part of how good they are at basketball...if it isn't...then I give up.

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Old 04-07-2014, 07:40 PM   #34
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We are.

My point is we can't possibly know that at this point.

We just obviously differ on this...and honestly I don't see your side of it. If Durant can't win a title with this group he has...how can one say he's better at basketball than Kobe? That doesn't make sense to me.

I'm accused of being a stats only guy...etc. But that isn't the case. Durant has a loaded team...every bit as good as Kobe's teams in 09 and 10 when healthy. Kobe made 3 finals and won back to back titles.

I need to see something along those lines from Durant if I'm going to put him on that level...as a basketball player.

Right now I don't think we can do that...
This team might be better talent wise than the 09/10 Lakers but they had great veteran presence and GOAT level coaching. Something the Thunder sorely lack. DFish doesn't count anymore.
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:41 PM   #35
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:44 PM   #36
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This team might be better talent wise than the 09/10 Lakers but they had great veteran presence and GOAT level coaching. Something the Thunder sorely lack. DFish doesn't count anymore.

Thunder have tons of veterans...and a great mix at that.

This is the point of people here...these are just excuses.

Collison, Thabo, Butler, and Fisher...those aren't veteran presences?

Shit...Durant and WB and Ibaka are veterans at this point.

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Old 04-07-2014, 08:02 PM   #37
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Current Durant.

Durant just had a better regular season than any of Kobe's.

I'll be back in two months to update this post, but the way that KD has been playing, it seems like he'll have a good to great playoffs as well, so I don't think I'll need to change my response.

I also expect that as Durant wins some rings and gains more accomplishments, a lot more people will come out and say that Durant's current season was so amazing. Because it'll be more acceptable to say it then.

How so?

Did he win the title? maybe 4?


Was he putting up comparable numbers to a Prime Shaq? Oh ok.
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Old 04-07-2014, 08:05 PM   #38
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We are.

My point is we can't possibly know that at this point.

We just obviously differ on this...and honestly I don't see your side of it. If Durant can't win a title with this group he has...how can one say he's better at basketball than Kobe? That doesn't make sense to me.

I'm accused of being a stats only guy...etc. But that isn't the case. Durant has a loaded team...every bit as good as Kobe's teams in 09 and 10 when healthy. Kobe made 3 finals and won back to back titles.

I need to see something along those lines from Durant if I'm going to put him on that level...as a basketball player.

Right now I don't think we can do that...

If Durant was on KG level Minny teams or something...then we'd have to really debate this. Now that KD plays on a stacked team...we don't. We get to compare stats and objective things...and see how KD does as a leader of a top team in the league. And that is a good thing...we get the answers...they are coming.

How players do on title capable teams with loaded talent like the Thunder is part of how good they are at basketball...if it isn't...then I give up.

Let me just ask you 1 question: does Durants basketball ability increase or stay the same if he wins a championship this year? Not career just basket ability.
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Old 04-07-2014, 08:06 PM   #39
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Kobe everytime they gave him a good team he won rings.
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Old 04-07-2014, 08:20 PM   #40
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Kobe everytime they gave him a good team he won rings.

This. Boiled Down to Top Ramen.

Screw everything else , half the players ISH says is better than this guy can't win with their current stacked Teams sans Lebron James and Timmy D.




























Freaks like Dirk don't need such things.
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Old 04-07-2014, 08:27 PM   #41
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Hour later....... Still no KD stans....
hmm seems like lack of faith in their boy is a recurring trend among the durant stans here
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Old 04-07-2014, 08:30 PM   #42
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LeBron

Who did you lose the avy bet to CB??
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Old 04-07-2014, 08:39 PM   #43
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Current Kobe would be a bigger draw than Prime Durant Please don't disrespect a legen-wait for it-dary player.
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Old 04-07-2014, 09:12 PM   #44
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hmm seems like lack of faith in their boy is a recurring trend among the durant stans here
I think the KD stans signed a treaty with the Kobe stans. The Kobe stans agreed to dickride Durant all season as long as the KD stans NEVER say anything bad about their precious Godbe. Embarrassing!
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Old 04-07-2014, 09:57 PM   #45
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Gonna bump.


LOL this is sad.
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