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Old 04-16-2014, 04:02 PM   #1
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Default Gary Payton says most "PGs" are shooting guards

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Gary Payton telling the truth about how most PGs today are really just undersized SGs pretending to be PGs.

They are hero ball shooting guard wannabes who are not about ball movement. This is why we are in the ISO era. The spurs understand that a PG must be a distributor first which is why they are so good. Now unlike Payton I actually like Curry's game even though he is a unique PG, but I am not a fan of the selfish inefficient chucker PGs like Rose, Irving, Westbrook, Lillard, Kemba Walker etc. These guys play "ball hog in the playground" loser ball. They have such a bad basketball mentality.
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Default Re: Gary Payton says most "PGs" are shooting guards

Very few true PGs left in the league. CP3 FTW
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What height's undersized for a SG?
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Default Re: Gary Payton says most "PGs" are shooting guards

why does it matter what they are called? if they are playing well and resulting in wins?
KD, melo and Lebron switch from SF to PF a lot of the times and duncan play C or PF depending on what Pop wants him to do.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...is_shared=true

Gary Payton telling the truth about how most PGs today are really just undersized SGs pretending to be PGs.

They are hero ball shooting guard wannabes who are not about ball movement. This is why we are in the ISO era. The spurs understand that a PG must be a distributor first which is why they are so good. Now unlike Payton I actually like Curry's game even though he is a unique PG, but I am not a fan of the selfish inefficient chucker PGs like Rose, Irving, Westbrook, Lillard, Kemba Walker etc. These guys play "ball hog in the playground" loser ball. They have such a bad basketball mentality.


the amount of plays finished by iso has decreased every season since 2007
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Default Re: Gary Payton says most "PGs" are shooting guards

lol Lillard is anything but a ball hogger
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the amount of plays finished by iso has decreased every season since 2007

Good trend, but the league is still an ISO league especially when you compare it to other time periods. I hope the trend keeps up.
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Old 04-16-2014, 04:17 PM   #8
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Default Re: Gary Payton says most "PGs" are shooting guards

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What height's undersized for a SG?
For me undersized at the SG is anything under 6'4, a la Monta Ellis, Jimmer Freddette or Avery Bradley.
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why does it matter what they are called? if they are playing well and resulting in wins?
KD, melo and Lebron switch from SF to PF a lot of the times and duncan play C or PF depending on what Pop wants him to do.

ISO PGs are very overrated.

Teams aren't playing up to their potential because of this ISO non sense. A PG's primary purpose is to facilitate ball movement. These ISO PGs contribute nothing in the ball movement category and are actually ball stoppers.

A player like KD, Lebron or Duncan are multitalented and can multiple positions and play them well. Very players have the frame and talent to do that.
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For me undersized at the SG is anything under 6'4, a la Monta Ellis, Jimmer Freddette or Avery Bradley.
What about Wade?
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What height's undersized for a SG?

A 6'3 190 player like Rose and Irving would be a undersized SG.
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Default Re: Gary Payton says most "PGs" are shooting guards

I agree with him on what he said about the NBA being soft a while back. And I agree with him here, but I don't see the point he is trying to make.
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What about Wade?

Wade is 6'4 220. But to be honest he was the primary playmaker for Miami before LeBron got here anyways.
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What about Wade?


D-wade is 6'4" and has a great wingspan.
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outdated NBA model. Why wouldn't PGs today be able to do everything a shooting guard can
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