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Old 04-17-2014, 01:55 AM   #1
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I guess first we'll get confirmation in the next few days Ty is gone. I'd think having a new coach and staff in place before the draft would be ideal but it probably depends on if there are any candidates they want still in the playoffs.

Second, May 20th the lottery. We'll see how lucky they are this time around. I'd say they're due.

Third, end of June will be the draft. Hard to predict after all the moves Lindsey pulled off last year.

Fourth, July 1st free agency begins. Jazz have most of their roster to fill but obviously G will be first priority. Don't over pay! Frontload it if you have to. Next they need a veteran pg to mentor Burke and possibly Neto or someone else. Tomic's buyout is doable now I believe. Not sure the Jazz have a place for him now but he could be a trade piece if he wants to come over. Seems like the time for him to come. He's at the top of the Euroleague the past two years.

Fifth, Vegas Summer League. Hopefully Neto and Burke and the Stocktons can go at each other. Gobert, Garrett, Clark, Thomas and Murphy should be there with the draft picks

Sixth, Kanter and Burke extensions. Kanter appears to be gone but I could still see signing him for the right price. Hopefully Burks they can put away.

Seventh, back to fall camp!

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Old 04-17-2014, 02:24 AM   #2
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:27 AM   #3
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Arizona State guard and two-time All-Pac-12 First Team selection Jahii Carson as expected will forgo his final two years of NCAA eligibility and enter the 2014 NBA Draft. The 2013 Pac-12 Co-Freshman of the Year averaged 18.6 points, 4.6 assists and 4.0 rebounds in his sophomore season, leading the Sun Devils to a 21-12 mark and its first NCAA appearance since 2009, as well as its best home record (16-1) in 40 seasons. Carson averaged 18.5 points and 5.1 assists in 2012-13, the first freshman to do that since Chris McGuthrie of Mount St. Mary's in 1992-93 (19.8/.5.1). Arizona State Sun Devils

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By virtue of Utah's win and Boston's season-ending loss to Washington, the Jazz and Celtics finished tied for the fourth-worst record in the league at 25-57.

This means Utah and Boston will split their lottery chances, resulting in each team having a 10.35 percent chance of winning the No. 1 pick and a 33.5 percent chance of finishing in the top three.

Losing to the T-Wolves would've given the Jazz sole possession of the fourth-worst record along with 11.9 percent odds of the top spot and a 37.8 percent chance of grabbing a top-three selection.

Also, by tying for fourth, the Jazz now only have a 69 percent probability of a top-five pick rather than 82.7 percent for being alone in 27th place overall.

The NBA will conduct a random drawing before the May 20 lottery to determine whether the Jazz or Celtics will be in the fourth or fifth positions, which will come into play if neither wins a top-three pick.

The NBA draft takes place on June 26.

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I guess that drawing decides who picks first in the 2nd round too? That's an early 2nd. Could get someone pretty good there too.
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Jabari Parker: Today I sent my letter of intent to the NBA. That makes it official -- my days as a Duke basketball player are over. But my days as a Duke student are not. I intend to graduate from Duke while I'm in the NBA. I was an honor student when I arrived at Duke, and I'd like to graduate as one. SI.com

got to believe the Jazz would have a hard time passing on the best mormon player ever with mormon owners and a fanbase that is more than half mormon if they have the chance
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Misko Raznatovic: Nemanja Dangubic, SG from Serbian team, Mega Vizura, 93, declared himself for upcoming draft. He had excellent game last night vs Red star. Twitter

#7 international prospect. not sure where that puts him on the big board?

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Sophomore Caris LeVert, whose scoring average jumped 10.6 points to 12.9 this season, said that he submitted his name to the NBA Undergraduate Advisory Council to evaluate his potential in the NBA draft. But LeVert said that he was only getting information and will not leave Michigan after his sophomore season. ďWe did do the process,Ē LeVert said Wednesday night after the team banquet at Crisler Center. ďThatís 100 percent, Iím coming back.Ē Detroit News

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Old 04-17-2014, 03:39 PM   #7
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Rudy Gobertís No. 1 priority in the offseason?

"Getting stronger, my legs and all my body. Getting stronger, quicker. Ö You got to be tough, especially me. Iím a center."

The rookie will go back to France to train, then return to U.S. at the end of May to go to P3 in Santa Barbara. Heíll participate in the Jazzís summer league schedule in July.

Gobert finished the season strong with eight points, nine rebounds and three blocks in 14 minutes last night in Minnesota. Waiting for his turn to play has been difficult.

"Just sitting on the bench, keep working and waiting for time, that was the hardest part," he said.

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Should have been in the Dleague. Good to hear his National team duties won't keep him from p3 and summer league anyway. He could be something special!
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:42 PM   #8
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the team hit some kind of wall around March 1.

Gordon Hayward cited "mental fatigue" as the cause, besides giving credit to the other teams.

"A lot of guys havenít been in this role for this many minutes for this many games," Hayward said, citing in-game lapses that continually hurt the Jazz.

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Which again is why you have vets around. What kind of wall would they have hit if they were playing even bigger roles with no vets as most people seem to want?
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Jazz coach Tyrone Corbin dismissed questions about his future Thursday, when the team held its annual end-of-the-season meetings at EnergySolutions Arena.

"We’ll sit down in the future," Corbin said, when asked if he has met with general manager Dennis Lindsey. "We’ve got to talk to the guys [today]. We’ll have a schedule going forward."

Asked if he felt he would be offered a new contract for next season and beyond, Corbin said, "I always feel I’m going to be where I am."

On Thursday morning, The Salt Lake Tribune learned that Corbin’s future could be decided by this weekend.

The Jazz finished 25-57 this season, which began with a gutting of the roster and commitment to playing Utah’s young foundation — a group that includes Gordon Hayward, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, Alec Burks and rookie point guard Trey Burke.

"Anything can happen in this league," Corbin said. "I’ve been in it a long time. You want to have a fair shake and you want the best opportunity to win.

"The organization just decided to go in a different direction from the guys we had before. I knew it would be difficult. No way when you change the roster like we did it is good for the coaching staff, especially in the last year of your contract."

Like any coach of a lottery team — rebuilding or otherwise — Corbin received outside criticism for the job he did in his third full season as Utah’s head coach.

He shrugged it off, saying, "Misery loves company. There are a lot of miserable people out there — people that just like to focus on the negative."

I'm sure it's already been decided. Will be official soon. He never had a fair shake.

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Old 04-17-2014, 03:51 PM   #10
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Jazz forward Marvin Williams has talked of his happiness and his desire to stay in Utah as a veteran in the rebuilding process.

The former star out of North Carolina didnít back away from that stance on Thursday morning.

"Iíve said all year long that I would like to return," Williams said. "The way the Jazz and the community have treated me, I canít imagine being anywhere else. I know that this is a business and that things happen, but Iíve made it clear all year long that I want to be here."

Williams spent most of the season as a stretch power forward in Ty Corbinís system, providing shooting and spacing on the floor. And the Jazz were a good team when he was in the lineup, and not so good when he wasnít.

Through it all, Williams spent the season mentoring the younger players. He was singled out by Corbin ó along with Richard Jefferson ó as two of the better leaders in the locker room. And even if Utah didnít have a successful season in the win column, Williams said that he saw growth from his less seasoned teammates.

"Itís been a learning experience," Williams said. "Iíve been in that position before, being a young guy and trying to step in and make a mark. So this year has just been a consistent learning experience."

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I hope he's gone. He's inconsistent and injury prone and I', not sure how much of his play has to do with being in a contract year. Rather have Jefferson! If he comes back I wouldn't give him more than 1 year year minimum.
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John Lucas III saw his playing time dry up as the season wore on.

The journeyman point guard said he understands the Jazz wanted to go young. Could the Jazz cut ties with him altogether?

"To me, I never look at it like that," he said. "Iím always going to be OK. I know what I can do. I know what I can do on the court. I know what I can do off the court. At the end of the season, I donít worry if I have a job next year. Iím fine. I walk by faith."

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Makes no sense to bring him back. They need a vet starter or back-up.
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As he waited for his exit interview Thursday, Hayward was also vague on what might await him this summer as an unrestricted free agent.
At least one teammate believes heíll be back.

"I donít think heís going anywhere," point guard John Lucas III said. "Heís the key. Heís the future here."
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Part of the future hopefully not the future.
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"Even if you draft a kid, heís going to be 19 years old," Jefferson said. "Heís not going to have an over-the-top impact at 19. It takes two or three years."
The Jazzís development is "a difficult process that you go through at times," Jefferson said. "But even great franchises, lots of franchises, go through this. But guys got better, guys worked extremely hard, and good things will come from them in the future."

Asked how far away the Jazz are, Jefferson said, "I donít know. I donít know. It takes time. Youíll find out next year."
Whatever progress the Jazz make, Jefferson said, mostly will come from "the guys within this locker room."
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If the top guys are as good as advertised they should make a huge impact immediately.
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Given the circumstances, Hayward believes Corbin did a good job.
"He was in a tough spot ó a Ďfree agentí asked to develop younger guys," Hayward said. "When you do that, a lot of times, the wins and losses arenít going to be in your favor."
The Jazz finished 25-57 after Wednesday nightís 136-103 double-overtime win at Minnesota.
"I thought he did a tremendous job," Hayward said. "He didnít give up on us. He worked hard. Kept us working hard. So hats off to him, even though Iím sure it was frustrating because nobody likes losing."

Corbinís status, of course, is more tenuous than Haywardís. As a restricted free agent, the Jazz can match any offer their leading scorer receives this summer.

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"I think itís crazy that people think we cannot play together," he said Thursday afternoon at EnergySolutions Arena. "I read all these articles and itís crazy some people think we canít play together. Ö

"This is my third year with him. I feel so much more comfortable with him on the court. Offensively, defensively, both sides of the court. I know what heís going to do and he knows what Iím going to do."

Statistically, Kanter enjoyed a breakout season in 2013-14.

He averaged 12.3 points and 7.5 rebounds. He played a total of 2,138 minutes, or nearly 200 more than he did in his first two seasons combined.

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It's not crazy. It didn't work. Will it in the future? Maybe. Thing is time could be running out. They may have to decide by next year.
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