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Old 03-12-2007, 03:08 PM   #46
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No, Nash simply has the talent around him to make it easy for him, same as he helps them.

They are simply a well built offensive machine. Its a team pretty much built only for offense.

You sound like such a freaking kid.

"Oh well Nash would be destroyed by Carter and Melo one on one", goodness since when did basketball become a "me" sport.

Not just any guard can come into the offense and make them as successful as they are now. It's stupid to say, well he has a system that any other player could thrive in. Please, shut up Ms. Cleo. You act as if you can predict outcomes from different players. Face it, Nash is better than Melo and Carter at this point. He might not be able to dash you with his athleticism, but stop hating, seriously. Melo has a good team around him, yet he is still a loser as of now.

Carter, well, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt that his team is so dam injured, bottomline though, Nash is better and more valuable than Carter at this point in their careers. Face it.
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THIS SEASONS TOP TEN PLAYERS
in no order


Carmelo Anthony
Gilbert Arenas
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
LeBron James
Tracy McGrady
Yao Ming
Steve Nash
Dirk Nowitzki
Dwyane Wade
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Ok, I want to start a team for a season that begins tomorrow, and I'm guarenteed that the player I build my team around will be healthy all year round. Who do I take?

In order...

1. Tim Duncan
- He's still fundamentally the most sound player in the league, and his impact goes beyond the stats. His defense, while not exactly whatit used to be, is still near the top of the league, and as an anchor, he's one of the very best. He's got that array of post moves, and a solid jumper. However, what puts him ahead the following few players isn't so much ability as it is smarts, and leadership. That's what he brings to the table moreso than anybody else in the league.

2. Kobe Bryant
- Best scorer in the league. That's what must be said about him straight off. However, this year he's proved that he can lead a team. If this team hadn't of been barraged with injuries midway through this first part of the year, LA would probably be 8-9 games above .500. I'm talking 39-21 or something like that. Unfortunately that's not the case, and we've struggled. Still can't go wrong with Kobe though. He brings more stats and skill than anyone else, and he's becoming a better leader than anyone could've imagined, myself included. All that needs work is his decision making and he'll be all set.

3. Dirk Nowitzki
- My list has changed since the beginning of the year. I used to have LeBron ahead of the German Dork, but I have to switch it up. Dirk has just been THAT good this year. I almost feel bad ranking him this low, as he could very well be above Kobe and ever Tim. However, I'm not ready to do that just yet. If he leads his team to a chip this year though, he may very well be arguably the best player in the league. He brings everything you need from a superstar. Just love watching him play.

4. LeBron James
- LeBron dropped off a wee bit to start the year. Maybe that's why I have Dirk over him. Lately though, he's back to tearing it up. It continues to astound me just how bad his teammates are when Hughes is out of the lineup. That Dallas game might've been one of the worst showings of a supporting cast for a superstar I've ever seen. Absolutely attrocious. I almost vomited, watching Wesley blow a breakaway layup, and seeing Snow recieve a perfect pass right under the basket, only to dribble it back out to the three point line and hope for LeBron to set something else up. Bron's been nothing short of deadly this year, and his jumper has improved as well.

5. Dwyane Wade
- Yeah, I know he recieves a lot of hate. The FT's, the losing this year, bla, bla, bla. However, let's look at his record when he actually plays. 25-20 in games he's played over 10 minutes in. That's on pace for 46 wins, which is still a winning record. Not too shabby at all. And he certainly has the stats. He's become an excellent team defender, and an improving 1v1 defender. He's gone for 29/5/8/2/1 with excellent %'s. He's still extremely TO prone, but that's not an extreme problem. He's only a tad moreso than Kobe has been this year.

6. Kevin Garnett
- Brings it on both ends, possibly moreso than any other guy on this list. Just a do-it-all player. I used to be a *****, but my opinion has changed. KG has a beautiful inside/outside game, and as much as people love to say he's a choke, they're wrong. He's not exactly clutch either, but he's no choke.

7. Yao Ming
- Never hurts to have a dominznt center in the post on your team. Yao's highly unappreciated, and he's had a tremendous year thusfar. He forces double teams, is a solid passer from the post, an excellent FT shooter, good shot blocker, and has a beautiful jumper from the post. I'm not sure why some people still have Amare ahead of this guy. Sure Amare's improved, but he has nowhere near the offensive arsonal that Yao can bring to the table.

8. Shaquille O'Neal
- That's right folks, he's here. And he's always been here. I don't think he's still better than Yao, and thus I had to stick the Chinese Giant one spot ahead. But Shaq is still the most dominant guy in the league. I've had him in my top 10 since I started watching basketball, and things aren't about to change just yet. He still has more impact, relative to his stats, than anyone else in the league. He's just a smart player. Incredibly efficient, and he brings everything you want from a bigman. On a team of shooters, he can still look like the best player alive.

9. Carmelo Anthony
- I have a pretty high opinion of this guy, despite my hatrid of the Nuggets. Awesome clutch player, always stepping it up big in dire moments. And he's not afraid to attack. Definately an underrated defensive player, as he can hold his own against any type of SF you put him up against. And that midrange game is just sweet.

10. Steve Nash
- Unfortunately Steve has to rank all the way down here. He's certaibly a special player, but he's not a guy you can really build any type of franchise around. It take some specific players. Like a good pick/role big, or some runners. Maybe some shooters. He just can't be the number one option offensively, and therefore, he must be surrounded by players who can finish quite well. The Suns have managed to find that, and Steve looks amazing. However, it's not necissarily an easy thing to do.

Just Missing the Cut: Gilbert Arenas, Tracy McGrady, Pau Gasol (underrated), Elton Brand, Amare Stoudemire, Allen Iverson, Chris Bosh
this is a solid list, and i like you're reasoning. i would move dirk up to #1 until someone shows they can beat his team convincingly. i'd also bump nash up the list to just under wade and maybe replace melo with tmac. anyway, way to provide explanations and think it out.
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this is a solid list, and i like you're reasoning. i would move dirk up to #1 until someone shows they can beat his team convincingly. i'd also bump nash up the list to just under wade and maybe replace melo with tmac. anyway, way to provide explanations and think it out.

HOW COULD ANYONE PUT KOBE ABOVE DIRK AFTER LAST NIGHT!?!?!?!?!
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this is a solid list, and i like you're reasoning. i would move dirk up to #1 until someone shows they can beat his team convincingly. i'd also bump nash up the list to just under wade and maybe replace melo with tmac. anyway, way to provide explanations and think it out.

Yeah, Dirk's definately making some arguments for being number one. And soon enough, I may very well have to put him there. But my bias for Kobe and my love for Tim's fundimentals are still too much for Dirk to overcome. Soon though.
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:25 PM   #51
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No, Nash simply has the talent around him to make it easy for him, same as he helps them.

They are simply a well built offensive machine. Its a team pretty much built only for offense.

Your "machine" theory may apply to Amare or some other Suns players. When Amare was hurt, the machine still ran well.

But Nash is differeent. Whenever Nash goes down the Suns starts losing and the "machine" breaks down. It seems to me that Nash is the machine. Without him the entire offense just won't work like it is now. And I don't see anyone who can replace Nash on Suns team and have the same impact.
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