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Old 03-13-2007, 10:47 PM   #31
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:48 PM   #32
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Huh, that's pretty interesting. Almost deserving of it's own thread. I was going to come in and call you out on lying, but a quick check at 82games shows me you're right. Pretty crazy.

Kobe's still at 76% though, so it's not a huge difference.
lol i'm not like some folks here, i only post stats that i can back up...

wade is less of a outside shooter than dirk despite having shaq inside, just to keep on the numbers line wade shoots 63% of his shots from outside, while 7% are dunks or tips, the rest are chippies

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Old 03-13-2007, 10:53 PM   #33
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after watching the Mavs give the Lakers the biggest beat down in thier history...how can anyone say Kobe?
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:57 PM   #34
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after watching the Mavs give the Lakers the biggest beat down in thier history...how can anyone say Kobe?

Quite simply.
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after watching the Mavs give the Lakers the biggest beat down in thier history...how can anyone say Kobe?
the question is after the mavs got beat down by golden state and dirk went 3-11 how can you not?
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:59 PM   #36
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the question is after the mavs got beat down by golden state and dirk went 3-11 how can you not?

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Old 03-13-2007, 11:02 PM   #37
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Kobe or Dirk?

I go with Dirk.

He is a real franchise player. He has made his teammates better.

Kobe is a good second level star. But he can't make his teammates better.
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:02 PM   #38
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The reason dirk Doesn't get sent to the line is because 81 percent of his shots are jumpers, when your 7 feet tall taking outside shots you can't expect to go to the line, big men have to be inside to get those calls consistently, only 2 percent of dirks shots are dunks or tip ins and the rest are short little chippies... it's really to bad he doesn't try to exert himself more inside because he shoots 90% from the line...

Last year 79% of Kobe's shots were jumpers, yet he averaged 10.2 FTA/gm. Dirk averaged 7.4 FTA/gm on 82% jumpers. Try again.

Dirk definitely gets the biggest shaft among all the superstars in the league in terms of officiating.
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:02 PM   #39
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the question is after the mavs got beat down by golden state and dirk went 3-11 how can you not?

i guess i'll choose baron davis and j richardson over both then
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:04 PM   #40
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Dirk's season is unreal. 50 fg%, .42 3pg%, 90ft%, plus 9.5 boards (in 35.5 minutes). That efficiency gives him a tremendous edge over Bryant. The only argument you can make for Bryant as of this second is that his defense has enough of an impact on the other team to negate both how much more efficient Dirk is and Dirk's advantage in limiting opposing team's shots.
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Last year 79% of Kobe's shots were jumpers, yet he averaged 10.2 FTA/gm. Dirk averaged 7.4 FTA/gm on 82% jumpers.

err you just proved my point, you shoot from the outside you get to the line less... try again

and this year kobe is shooting 76% from outside and going to the line 11.6 times, so once again you shoot more from closer in you go to the line more...

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Old 03-13-2007, 11:11 PM   #42
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LMAO at people picking Dirk Nowitzki over Kobe Bryant.

Listen I'm a huge Dirk fan, but c'mon now. Dirk, ever since he has come into his own as a player, has been the benefactor of being on some loaded squads. Kobe has yet to be surrounded with talent like that.
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*cough* Shaquille O'neal *cough*
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Yeah, but we're talking about each player being the leader of a squad as the "franchise" player. Since 2004 - 2005 when the team was un-questionably Kobe's, he has been surrounded with NBA bums and scrubs. With the exception of Lamar Odom and Caron Butler, and even then they couldn't find their rythm and mesh their style of play into the triangle offense.
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And yet Dirk this year plays with George. Was he one of the bums? Why is it that George is a key guy off of Dallas's bench this year.
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