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Old 03-16-2007, 06:20 PM   #16
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Default Re: is it time for the Pacers to blow up team?

I am sorry but didn't they blow the team already with the warriors trade? Was that trade made to improve?

Just trade JO for Francis and his expiring contract, i know it's still a full year to put up with him, but it will be also a lot of money coming of the books after that one year...
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:56 PM   #17
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Default Re: is it time for the Pacers to blow up team?

Well, if the Pacers want to rebuild, they had better hope that Minnesota and New York are interested in Dunleavy, Murphy or Tinsley, 'cause those are the only teams dumb enough to trade for such awful, awful contracts.
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:13 AM   #18
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Default Re: is it time for the Pacers to blow up team?

i never really understood the trade they made with GS unless they think very highly of diogu. oneal and granger are good pieces, but they dont got much else. theyre not gonna contend any time soon so they might as well
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Old 03-17-2007, 08:36 AM   #19
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If they trade O'Neal, they should try and include Dunelavy Jr with him.

Murphy is still tradable, he's a big guy, someone will always gamble on a big. Tinsley is quite movable too.
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Old 03-17-2007, 08:45 AM   #20
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They gotta build around Granger, he's the future.

I wouldn't mind keeping Tinsley, he's a very nice player to have.

Murphy? Im not sure about him, he's a tremendous rebounder and can shoot pretty nice for a big man. He's a solid 10/10 player, i think i would keep him.
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:18 AM   #21
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Trade J.O. to NYC. We'll take him and a bad contract.


But yes it's time to blow up the Pacers.
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:19 AM   #22
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Trade J.O. to NYC. We'll take him and a bad contract.


But yes it's time to blow up the Pacers.
not gonna happen. JO is not an undersized guard.
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:23 AM   #23
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He does have a bloated contract lol. And he's almost over the hill at the tender age of 29 due to all the mileage.
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:30 AM   #24
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He does have a bloated contract lol. And he's almost over the hill at the tender age of 29 due to all the mileage.

What would wotk for the Pacers and Knicks?

Any deal that gets the Pacers O'Neal is a steal for Isiah
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:34 AM   #25
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is granger underperformingg? looked like he had all the chances to step up and become a number 1 option for the pacers....
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:05 AM   #26
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is granger underperformingg? looked like he had all the chances to step up and become a number 1 option for the pacers....

Granger is having a good year. But he's just not a franchise-type player. He's good, but not great. And if he's the sole future of the Pacers then they will be bottom feeding for a long time.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:24 AM   #27
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Default Re: is it time for the Pacers to blow up team?

If the Cs can't get Oden or Durant I'd like to see them trade the pick, Szczerbiak, and Scalibrine for O'Neal.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:54 AM   #28
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Here's the trade, even though I hate the Lakers. Salaries match.

Jamaal Tinsley
Jermaine O'Neal
Troy Murphy *Dunleavy would also work salary wise*

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Lamar Odom
Kwame Brown
Vladimir Radmonavic

Lakers : They receive a legitimate big man star and serious scoring threat on the block to pair with Kobe's perimeter offense. Jermaine is also a good interior defender to match with Kobe on the perimeter. Kobe also gets his dream of playing with a star big man who won't overshadow him. In addition, depsite his flaws, Tinsley is a gigantic upgrade at the PG position for the Lakers. His contract is more palatable to a team that's been running Smush Parker and Tierre Brown for the last few years. Murphy is the price you pay for getting ONeal, although hopefully Murphy will contribute a little. If the Lakers could find a defensive minded SF with their MLE, they'd be stacked.

Pacers This trade puts them into a much, much better financial situation and allows them to begin a rebuild. Kwame's expiring contract comes off the books after next year, while Odom only has one year after that. Radmanovic is included to make salaries work, and only has a mid-level contract so it's nothing too horrible. In the meantime, they still have a little star power in Odom to keep things interesting.

Depending on how free agency goes, the Bobcats or Magic or Bucks could be included to take on Odom since they can absorb his contract without matching salaries. The Pacers might be interested in doing that if those other teams offer picks and/or young players. That would be full on rebuild mode.

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Old 03-17-2007, 12:24 PM   #29
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JO to the Bulls for a player and a draft pick.

As a Bulls fan I would consider something like that only if the Bulls weren't able to get K.G. in the off-season. How about if we gave them Andres Nocioni, P.J. Brown, a 2008 first round pick and cash for J.O. and a future second round pick. I think that would be a fair trade. What do you think?

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Old 03-17-2007, 12:40 PM   #30
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How about if we gave them Andres Nocioni and a 2008 first round pick for J.O. I think that would be a fair trade. What do you think?

Salaries don't match. The Bulls aren't a realistic trade partner as far as I can tell.
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