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Old 06-26-2014, 05:28 PM   #46
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And for your analysis here
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THe is supposed to be this brilliant Constitutional expert. If a decision goes 9-0... then the outcome was a slam dunk. He either is an idiot who couldn't see this drubbing coming and thought his appointments were legitimate... or if he did think they were illegitimate... he simply didn't care about making an unconstitutional power grab.
you act like this is settled territory, but the truth is the Supreme Court has never considered this before, there's simply no precendents on this.

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Breyer noting that "presidents have made recess appointments since the beginning of the republic."
"Their frequency suggests that the Senate and president have recognized that recess appointments can be both necessary and appropriate in certain circumstances," he added. "We have not previously interpreted the [recess-appointments] clause, and, when doing so for the first time in more than 200 years, we must hesitate to upset the compromises and working arrangements that the elected branches of government themselves have reached."
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:44 PM   #47
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The Times has a good explainer of the court issue
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The court rejected the validity of four appointments President Obama made in January 2012, when the question of whether the Senate was in recess was in dispute. While on the surface the ruling was a blow to executive power, on a deeper level it was also a victory for executive power because it rolled back an appeals court ruling that had gone much further in restricting such authority.
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Old 07-03-2014, 10:34 AM   #48
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http://www.nbcnews.com/business/mark...report-n147346


Finally some good news for the president.
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Old 07-07-2014, 07:26 PM   #49
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It's understandable, especially with the shitty weather we had to deal with in the 1st quarter. There are some positive signs, such as consumer confidence, that bode well for the coming quarters. I think we'll see 3% or so growth for the year.

It does look like that first quarter is an outlier and I suspect might be revised a bit.

The latest jobs reports is the best in quite sometime and exceeded predictions by about 75K.

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Job growth sped up in June as the economy created a much-higher-than expected 288,000 jobs and the jobless rate dropped to near a six-year low of 6.1 percent. The Labor Department reported Thursday that data for April and May were revised to show a total of 29,000 more jobs created than previously reported. Economists polled by Reuters had forecast a gain of 212,000 jobs in June. It was the first time since the technology boom in the late 1990s that employment has grown above a 200,000-jobs pace for five straight months.

Unemployment is at 6.1% where it was in September 2008.
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Old 07-08-2014, 08:27 PM   #50
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http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...620-story.html

Obama is doing little for our border control.


Our subsidies have undermined NAFTA to the point where we've created a 3rd world environment in Northern Mexico. IMO... before we start taking a hard line on immigration we need to give them a fighting chance to have economic success in their home land. Most of those people don't want to be here... they feel like they need to be either to find work or to escape the cartels. Helping them (not with money... but with more fair trade policies) economically would undermine the authority of the cartels and reduce the number of people feeling like they need to come here.

You might want to check out this story. The crisis has nothing to do with NAFTA because if the kids came from Mexico, we can simply turn them back. It has to do with the unintended consequences of sex trafficking law that Bush signed in 2008 that applies to all countries not part of NAFTA.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/08/us...king.html?_r=2
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Originally pushed by a bipartisan coalition of lawmakers as well as by evangelical groups to combat sex trafficking, the bill gave substantial new protections to children entering the country alone who were not from Mexico or Canada by prohibiting them from being quickly sent back to their country of origin.

The Bill was passed unanimously in the Senate without a full vote.
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New AP story on Benghazi. Military testified that the two attacks should be thought of as separate incidents and might have involved different groups.
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Newly revealed testimony from top military commanders involved in the U.S. response to the Benghazi attacks suggests that the perpetrators of a second, dawn attack on a CIA complex probably were different from those who penetrated the U.S. diplomatic mission the evening before and set it ablaze, killing Ambassador Chris Stevens and another American.

The second attack, which killed two security contractors, showed clear military training, retired Gen. Carter Ham told Congress in closed-door testimony released late Wednesday. The assault probably was the work of a new team of militants, seizing on reports of violence at the diplomatic mission the night before and hitting the Americans while they were most vulnerable.
Military also seems to be unaware of the CIA complex
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In testimony to two House panels earlier this year, the officers said that commanders didn't have the information they needed to understand the nature of the attack, that they were unaware of the extent of the U.S. presence in Benghazi at the time and they were convinced erroneously for a time that they were facing a hostage crisis without the ability to move military assets into place that would be of any use.
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Roy Nagin sentenced 10 years in prison.
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:11 AM   #53
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In the wake of two spies for the US being discovered, Germany just kicked the CIA's chief of station out of the country.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/germany-...lawmaker-says/
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:19 AM   #54
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Medicaid costs down $50 Billion since 2010 estimates.


They are not sure why, but this article points to some of the cost saving measures in the Affordable Care Act.
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Unnecessary readmissions — when someone turns up at the hospital a second time because something went wrong on the first visit — are bad for patients and for budgets.

The good news on unnecessary readmissions is they're becoming less frequent among Medicare patients, a drop that started at just about the same time as CBO began revising downward the cost of covering a Medicare patient....

Obamacare changed the way doctors get paid

The health care law included lots of changes to the way that doctors get paid within the Medicare program, all aimed at getting doctors to provide better care at lower costs. That's true, for example, with readmissions: Obamacare now penalizes hospitals when their patient shows up for a second visit that didn't need to happen, if everything had gone right the first time.

There are dozens of changes like this that could be playing a role in explaining why Medicare may cost significantly less than initially expected.
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New England Journal of Medicine estimates that 20 Million people are covered through the Affordable Care Act. Note that doesn't mean 20 million newly ensured.
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good, seems like social security is up next.

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The latest jobs reports is the best in quite sometime and exceeded predictions by about 75K.

Unemployment is at 6.1% where it was in September 2008.

Good news on new unemployment applications. Lowest since before the Great Recession began. Sept 2008 end was when the economy totally tanked, but it later determined that it was in recession since December 2007 and we are now seeing numbers that we have seen since August 2007.

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Weekly applications for unemployment aid dropped 11,000 to a seasonally adjusted 304,000, the Labor Department said Thursday. That's not far from a reading of 298,000 two months ago, which was the lowest since 2007, before the Great Recession began.

The four-week average, a less volatile measure, dipped 3,500 to 311,500, the second-lowest level since August 2007. Applications are a proxy for layoffs, so the low readings indicate that employers are letting go of fewer workers.

The figures are the latest sign that the job market is steadily improving. Employers are adding jobs at a healthy clip and the unemployment rate is at a 5 1/2-year low.

"The ... data remain extremely encouraging," said Jim O'Sullivan, chief U.S. economist at High Frequency Economics. The four-week average is down from last year's average of 343,000, he noted.
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New AP story on Benghazi.
More testimony on Benghazi has come out showing Darrell Issa and Josh Chafetz have been lying about the "stand down order."

Among the lies.
A. They could not have gotten to Benghazi in time
B. They were given a different mission in Tripoli and ended up saving at least one life there
C. Their mission of guarded a perimeter who have done nothing to prevent against a mortar attack.

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The testimony of nine military officers undermines contentions by Republican lawmakers that a “stand-down order” held back military assets that could have saved the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans killed at a diplomatic outpost and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya.....
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The senior military officer who issued the instruction to “remain in place” and the detachment leader who received it said it was the right decision and has been widely mischaracterized.

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Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the Oversight panel, has suggested Hillary Rodham Clinton gave the order, though as secretary of state at the time, she was not in the military chain of command.
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no help could have arrived in Benghazi in time. They put the call somewhere between 5:05 a.m. and 6:30 a.m. local time. It would take about 90 minutes to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi. The next U.S.-chartered plane to make the trip left at 6:49 a.m., meaning it could have arrived shortly before 9 a.m., nearly four hours after the second, 11-minute battle at the CIA facility ended at about 5:25 a.m.
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The one weapons guy was hobbling around on a bum foot.

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Beyond questions of timing, the testimony of Rear Adm. Brian Losey, who was then Special Operations commander for Africa, also challenged the idea the team had the capacity to bolster security in Benghazi.
Losey said there was “never an order to stand down.” His instruction to the team “was to remain in place and continue to provide security in Tripoli because of the uncertain environment.” Earlier on Sept. 11, the U.S. Embassy in Cairo had been breached as well.
Losey questioned what the four could have done to aid the situation in Benghazi, where American personnel were preparing to evacuate as soon as possible. He said assigning the small team to defend a perimeter wouldn’t have been appropriate, and would have meant the military losing its command operation in Tripoli “for the benefit of four riflemen who weren’t even riflemen.”
“The guy’s command and control, he’s communications, medical,” Losey recounted. “I’ve got one weapons guy with his foot in a cast.
Didn’t make a lot of sense.”

By securing the embassy in Tripoli and dealing with the evacuees, this group is credited with saving at least one person's life.
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are the US really that incompetent in dealing with the issues at Iraq?


the UN for that matter
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