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Old 06-29-2006, 03:45 PM   #31
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Isiah deserves all the criticism we can give him until Dolan fires him. He's ruined the Knicks for at least the next four years minimum....
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Old 06-29-2006, 03:56 PM   #32
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Alright, im going to start a thread called bets. You bet on things that will happen. If you are right at the end of next season, you have bragging rights for the year. Rasheed Wallace sucks balls by the way.
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:05 PM   #33
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there the thread is up, and if any of you say "ooooooooooohhhhh you double posted" I will come to your house and **** your mom
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Old 06-30-2006, 11:07 AM   #34
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THAT'S NOT WHAT I HEARD? Isiah Thomas said he snatched up Renaldo Balkman with the 20th pick in Wednesday's NBA draft because the Suns were going to pick him next, a claim sources say isn't accurate.
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June 30, 2006 -- When Isiah Thomas defended his decision to nab defensive South Carolina small-forward defensive specialist Renaldo Balkman at 20 instead of waiting for 29, he said his "due diligence" discovered the Suns were going to take him at either 21 or 27.
Sherlock Holmes, Isiah is not. Three sources, including one inside the Suns organization, told The Post yesterday Phoenix was not taking Balkman in the first round and that's not why they traded their picks. One league source who spoke to a Suns official said if Balkman was available at 45, they would have passed.
As such, Thomas could have selected his point-guard-of-the-future in lottery-projected Marcus Williams at 20, then secured mystery man Balkman at 29. A rebuilding team passing on Williams is shortsighted, as Marbury is 29 with a lot of mileage and sore knees, and Francis is 29 going on 39.

Thomas said Williams duplicated the small guards they had on the roster and he'd rather have 6-5 point guard Mardy Collins anyhow.

"When you look at the type of point guard we needed, we needed more size at that position," Thomas said. "Marcus is great but if you go back and look at scouting reports Mardy was ranked pretty high."

"Call Billy Donovan, he won the national championship last year. Ask him if we were surprised to take a guy like Balkman because his team beat them twice."

One South Carolina source said Balkman, who came off the bench 12 times and has no offensive game whatsoever, thought the Knicks could be interested at 29 but not 20. Balkman was not included in the draft media guide that lists 100 players. The Suns may not have taken Balkman if there was a third round.
"I was shocked," Balkman said yesterday. "I was at my mother's house. We woke up the whole apartment complex [in Tampa]. I just wanted to be drafted period."

Thomas said he so badly didn't want Balkman's name to emerge in the newspapers he only called him "The B-Man." Turns out, he didn't have to be so secretive.

"When you look at Balkman, you can look at every guy on our roster and say we don't have a guy like this with that engine," Thomas said.








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Old 06-30-2006, 11:16 AM   #35
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"I was shocked," Balkman said yesterday. "I was at my mother's house. We woke up the whole apartment complex [in Tampa]. I just wanted to be drafted period."

LOL LMAO...The guy would have been happy with an invite to a Summer League Camp, and he becomes the #20 pick in the draft.....LOL LMAO.

Balkman just hit the lottery.....

Isiah does it again...
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where was balkman projected anyways?
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Old 06-30-2006, 11:22 AM   #37
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I can't really argue with Isiah's draft history, so until then I will try to live with this pick.
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Old 06-30-2006, 11:23 AM   #38
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Isiah's reasoning for choosing Balkman is sufficient since the Knicks need to fill needs, notabl in defense.

and if Balkman pans out, then all is well for the Knicks.

personally I see another Trevor Ariza.. all work.. no talent.. no results.




it is the fact that Isiah tried to save face by blaming it on the SUns, only to get rebuffed and owned by several sources inside the league, that makes this thread noteworthy
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Old 06-30-2006, 11:27 AM   #39
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Isiah's reasoning for choosing Balkman is sufficient since the Knicks need to fill needs, notabl in defense.

and if Balkman pans out, then all is well for the Knicks.

personally I see another Trevor Ariza.. all work.. no talent.. no results.




it is the fact that Isiah tried to save face by blaming it on the SUns, only to get rebuffed and owned by several sources inside the league, that makes this thread noteworthy

You don't understand. The goal is to maximize the value of your pick.

Let's say I'm Isiah and I just "have to have" Balkman. But he's not worthy of the #20 pick? So what do you do?

TRADE DOWN!!!!! Trade the #20 pick for a 2nd round pick and GET SOMETHING ELSE. LIKE A FUTURE #1 or something.

Then you can take your precious Balkman with the 2nd round pick and you get something else...

THAT is why Isiah is a complete moron.....
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You don't understand. The goal is to maximize the value of your pick.

Let's say I'm Isiah and I just "have to have" Balkman. But he's not worthy of the #20 pick? So what do you do?

TRADE DOWN!!!!! Trade the #20 pick for a 2nd round pick and GET SOMETHING ELSE. LIKE A FUTURE #1 or something.

Then you can take your precious Balkman with the 2nd round pick and you get something else...

THAT is why Isiah is a complete moron.....


i agree with that statement, i was merely trying to patronize ALBBaller.
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Old 06-30-2006, 11:30 AM   #41
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i agree with that statement, i was merely trying to patronize ALBBaller.

Ah, sarcasm, gotcha.... :)
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LOL I still can't believe they passed on Marcus grade a bull**** is that? Marbury is 6'3 and the strongest PG in the game. Francis is 6'3. They are HUGE at the PG position and I would hardly call Marcus undersized. They got an off-the-bench comboguard as their future at the position when they could have had a potential near-all-star and team player. With lottery talent. At 20. And instead they added a dime a dozen hustle player.
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Isiah's reasoning for choosing Balkman is sufficient since the Knicks need to fill needs, notabl in defense.

and if Balkman pans out, then all is well for the Knicks.

personally I see another Trevor Ariza.. all work.. no talent.. no results.

Bull**** son. Trevor is all work and all talent. What he DOESN'T have, is a jumpshot or a brain. He is a super athletic talent and is a super hustler. Just needs a jumpshot and he's golden.
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