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Old 09-23-2014, 11:16 PM   #31
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Angle is pretty terrible on that pic. First one is good though, pretty solid proof of 40+ vertical imo.

I cant seem to see what you and eliteballer are seeing.... i see the most perfect angle ever, very horizontal, the rim in perfect line AND he is right next beside the rim (not closer to the camera than the rim is)..

That first pic/camera angle you are talking about is actually nowhere near as good as this one, looking at the rim/ring not being in perfect line you can see the diagonal direction from where the shot was taken. The only reason that picture is legit is because his head is so literally next to the rim...
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Old 09-23-2014, 11:16 PM   #32
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MJ - 48 inch vert
LeBron - 44 inch vert
D. Rose - 44 inch vert
Kobe - 38 inch vert

Unless you have proof of Jordan's neck above the rim I cant see that
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Old 09-23-2014, 11:17 PM   #33
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MJ - 48 inch vert
LeBron - 44 inch vert
D. Rose - 44 inch vert
Kobe - 38 inch vert

Show me ONE picture of MJ's head OVER the rim(even barely) to show his vert was even over 40, let alone 44, or 45.....or 48
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Old 09-23-2014, 11:22 PM   #34
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Old 09-24-2014, 12:24 AM   #35
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If Derrick Rose had a 44" vert then he would have had at least 1 dunk where his head is 1 inch away from the rim. 44" + his 6'3 height is 9'11 (1 inch from the rim)


This is the best I can find

http://media.nbcchicago.com/images/6...DRose+Dunk.jpg
He is clearly 5-6 inches under the rim

Unless I can find a higher pic than that

Lol. He is on his way down on that pick. Rose measured a little over 6"1 1/2" in bare feet. Probably a little over 6'2" with shoes. He regularly dunks with his head at close to rim level. Do the math.

Moreover, if the guy was measured with a 40" inch vert as a 19/20 year at a camp, what makes you think he can't get any higher than that with adrenaline? Athletes do it all the time. That's why guys shatter records at the Olympics every year - far exceeding their best marks from practice - they elevate their level of athleticism due to adrenaline.

Just a sample for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3FaCBYp2-A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRAp00SxP30

Even as a yungsta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQvTABMutyw


Like I previously said, last year he said he regularly tested out at 42/43 inches in his most recent vertical tests. Thus it is highly likely that he also gets up as high as 44inches (just 1 inch higher) during game action.

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Old 09-24-2014, 12:42 AM   #36
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MJ....

Height - 6'6" (198 cm)
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Vertical - 48" (123 cm)
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10'6" - 10'7" (319-322 cm)

Meaning, almost his entire head would need to be over the rim, kindof almost touching the rim with his chin. (Average head length is approximately 9' inches)

MJ had a nice vertical, however 48" is just myth... that would be true only if he was around 5'11-6'0"...

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Old 09-24-2014, 12:50 AM   #37
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44" is his measured vertical to be exact & 2009-10 was his vertical peak imo, thats where he flied like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX990fnB6i8

NBA/draft-combine seem to highlight the max vertical for players (takeoff) as their main vertical, not standing vertical.

40" at this moment is believable, with other words, he has lost a bit of athleticism.... :P
I'm more inclined to believe the 40.xx figures have been typical throughout his career. Isn't there a several-years-old Nike commercial that states his vertical was 40 inches and a few decimal points? During Lebron's athletic "peak"?
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Old 09-24-2014, 12:51 AM   #38
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MJ....

Height - 6'6" (198 cm)
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Vertical - 48" (123 cm)
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10'6" - 10'7" (319-322 cm)

Meaning, almost his entire head would need to be over the rim, kindof almost touching the rim with his chin. (Average head length is approximately 9' inches)

MJ had a nice vertical, however 48" is just myth... that would be true only if he was around 5'11-6'0"...
Well one could say the same about Lebron's uncite-able "44 vertical"... I believe his is around 40-41 and was never really more than that.
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Old 09-24-2014, 12:54 AM   #39
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Cross-court cams.

All you guys have is cross court-cam shots. Know why? Because cross-court cam shots are inherently misleading. The subject is always just slightly closer to the camera than the rim. Therefore they appear slightly bigger and more elevated. It is in fact a misleading angle, no matter how much pauk swears it isn't
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Old 09-24-2014, 12:56 AM   #40
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I'm more inclined to believe the 40.xx figures have been typical throughout his career. Isn't there a several-years-old Nike commercial that states his vertical was 40 inches and a few decimal points? During Lebron's athletic "peak"?

When I saw your name in the recent posts, I thought it would be something about how Wilt had a 65+ inch vert and some BS grainy pics as proof
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Old 09-24-2014, 12:59 AM   #41
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lebron can get his head at the rim

a 10 foot net is 120 inches

lebrons 80 inches tall ( 6 foot 8 )

120 minus 80 = 40 inch virt




big deal. allot of guys have that
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Old 09-24-2014, 12:59 AM   #42
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When I saw your name in the recent posts, I thought it would be something about how Wilt had a 65+ inch vert and some BS grainy pics as proof
nah i'm just here to be the voice of reason.

I do believe Lebron has a 40.xx inch vertical though. Multiple sources, and I do believe his head has gotten rim level or nearly so a couple of times despite a few angles being misleading. There's a few video clips from several different angles that confirm. 44? Put me in the extreme skepticism group. The only evidence of this is anecdotal at best (and are outnumbered by more solid 40 inch sources) and all the angles that show his head/eyes "above" rim are not convincing enough (cross-court shots).
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:01 AM   #43
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Rose...

Height - 6'3" - (191 cm)
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Vertical - 44" - (112 cm)
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9'11" - 10' (303 cm)

Meaning, the top of his head/hair should be able to graze or touch the lower part of the ring.

Never seen him that high, have you? 40" however, seen him maybe go there, 42" at the very extreme top....

"I think coming into the league I was at 37 [inches vertical jump] and they tested my vertical at [a training facility], I'm probably at like a 42 [inches], so I'm jumping a little bit higher."
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story...higher-surgery
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:03 AM   #44
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nah i'm just here to be the voice of reason.

I do believe Lebron has a 40.xx inch vertical though. Multiple sources, and I do believe his head has gotten rim level or nearly so a couple of times despite a few angles being misleading. There's a few video clips from several different angles that confirm. 44? Put me in the extreme skepticism group. The only evidence of this is anecdotal at best (and are outnumbered by more solid 40 inch sources) and all the angles that show his head/eyes "above" rim are not convincing enough (cross-court shots).

This wasnt enough bro?



I mean, this looks like a legit 46" vertical

And his body was parallel with the rim, he wasnt closer to the camera, there are other angles to support this

imo this is a confirmed 44" minimum
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:04 AM   #45
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This wasnt enough bro?



I mean, this looks like a legit 46" vertical

And his body was parallel with the rim, he wasnt closer to the camera, there are other angles to support this

imo this is a confirmed 44" minimum
That's exactly the problem. It's a cross court cam, cross court camera angles are not convincing evidence at all. He's closer to the camera than the rim is. So he appears larger and on a higher plane. It is an optical illusion.
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