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Old 04-02-2007, 12:47 AM   #16
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For the record.. what i think would be every 11/12th man on each team.

EAST
Atlanta Hawks- Esteban Batista
Boston Celtics- Leon Powe, Allan ray
Charlotte Bobcats- Ryan Hollins, Jake Voshkul
Chicago Bulls- Martynas Andriuskevicious, Andre Barret
Cleveland Cavaliers- Dwayne Jones
Detroit Pistons- Will Blacklock
Indiana Pacers- Maceo Baston, Shawne Williams
Miami Heat- Earl Barron
Milwaukee Bucks- Damir Markota
New Jersey Nets- Mile Illic
New York Knicks- Mardy Collins
Orlando Magic- James Augustine, Bo Outlaw
Philadelphia Sixers- Shavlick Randolph
Toronto Raptors- Pape Sow, Uros Slokar
Washington Wizards- Calvin Booth

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Dallas Mavericks- Jose Barea
Denver Nuggets- Jamal Sampson
Golden State Warriors- Zarko Cabarkapa
Houston Rockets- Steve Novak
Los Angeles Clippers- Daniel Ewing, Yaroslav Korolev
Los Angeles Lakers- Shammond Williams
Memphis Grizzlies- Scot Padgett
Minnesota Timberwolves- Mark Madsen
New Orleans Hornets- Brandon Bass, Linton Johnson
Phoenix Suns- Eric Piatowski, Jalen Rose and Pat Burke
Portland Trailblazers- Raef LaFrents, Luke Scheschner
Sacramento Kings- Justin Williams, Vitaly Potapenko
San Antonio Spurs- James White, Jackie Butler
Seattle Supersonics- Mike Wilks
Utah Jazz- CJ Miles, Rafael Arajuo

I honestly think that if someone were to rate the best 12th men, Jose Barea would be in the top tier of them.

Notice how most teams have young guys as their twelfth men, because most teams now prefer experience over youth and don't have time to be developing their players.

Thats the reason Jose Barea doesn't play, I'm almost certain that if he were with the Hawks or a poor team like that, he would be at least a 7th man.

I would love to argue with this list but I don't know most of the names on it...

and if I did I would still have to think it is almost impossible to rank the 11th or 12th men...

he may be better than some of the younger guys...but I think I would rather have a younger guy with some height and "some" promise for the future...
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:49 AM   #17
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He looks better than Maurice Ager when they are out there.
I don't agree with that...but I guess one could argue it

who do you think has a better chance of improving though?
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:52 AM   #18
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Oh and can you name a better player that we could of got for nothing to stick in his spot?
no....but I am sure there are plenty of young guys out there that are 6 inches taller and can dribble the ball...

and I know that size isn't everything but it is something
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:53 AM   #19
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Barea is a rook, so you really can't say what his future holds.

true...I can't

but judging by his size I can take an educated guess
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Primetime, you obviously dont like Barea bcoz of his height, it doesn't matter though, he can score, rebound, and pass the ball very well for his height.
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Primetime, you obviously dont like Barea bcoz of his height, it doesn't matter though, he can score, rebound, and pass the ball very well for his height.

pass I will give you...

but score and rebound?
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pass I will give you...

but score and rebound?

25.4 PPG, 7.6 APG, 5.0 RPG

NBDL Numbers, the 5 rebounds are great for a 6'0''.

And the PPG speaks for itself.
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25.4 PPG, 7.6 APG, 5.0 RPG

NBDL Numbers, the 5 rebounds are great for a 6'0''.

And the PPG speaks for itself.

the fact that those aren't NBA numbers speaks for itself also though...
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true...I can't

but judging by his size I can take an educated guess
that's the problem with the average sports fan. too much education. when nash was drafted by the suns i didn't know who he was. When nash came to dallas I thought that he was just another mavericks reject(of corse making an educated guess).....still angry that we let kidd go. you never know what a guy is capable of....especially judging by appearance. that's just ridiculous. I'm not saying barea is the next steve nash.....but i'm not saying he can't be a good PG in the nba either.
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that's the problem with the average sports fan. too much education. when nash was drafted by the suns i didn't know who he was. When nash came to dallas I thought that he was just another mavericks reject(of corse making an educated guess).....still angry that we let kidd go. you never know what a guy is capable of....especially judging by appearance. that's just ridiculous. I'm not saying barea is the next steve nash.....but i'm not saying he can't be a good PG in the nba either.

why is it ridiculas to judge a player by his size?

you act as though height and weight mean nothing...

what if he was 3 feet tall?...would it be ok to judge him then?...what if he was 10 feet 500 lbs?....move over Shaq right?

scouts and coaches use size to determine a players value all the time...it isn't ridiculas at all...

also his size is not the only thing I am judging him on...I have seen the Mavs up by 30, take out thier starters, put in Barea, lead goes down to 10, put the starters back in....he isn't playing good ball either imo
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that's the problem with the average sports fan. too much education. when nash was drafted by the suns i didn't know who he was. When nash came to dallas I thought that he ywas just another mavericks reject(of corse making an educated guess).....still angry that we let kidd go. you never know what a guy is capable of....especiall judging by appearance. that's just ridiculous. I'm not saying barea is the next steve nash.....but i'm not saying he can't be a good PG in the nba either.

Yo lorenzo. Im guessing you are the lorenzotexan that posts at ASFN. I enjoy your posts over there(you are by no means a troll). Anyways you should post over here more often.
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why is it ridiculas to judge a player by his size?

Bcoz height can sometimes be misleading. take jason kidd, hes 6'4 and hes the best rebounder on his team? i know NJ is not the greatest rebounding team but that is quite an acomplishment.
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also his size is not the only thing I am judging him on...I have seen the Mavs up by 30, take out thier starters, put in Barea, lead goes down to 10, put the starters back in....he isn't playing good ball either imo

Over-exaguration (don't know spelling) maybe?
How do they lose a 30 point lead in less then 5mins? (the time he plays)
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Only the idiot ones

that would be all of them...

size might be the reason that Oden gets taken before Durant...

a large part of the NFL combine is just taking measurements of the players size...

I would thing that a scout would have to be an idiot if he didn't take size into consideration
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