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Old 03-30-2007, 01:26 PM   #16
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Default Re: Durant Named AP POY: Better freshman season than Melo?

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Show me where ANYONE in this thread has said that Carmelo was "just good". Don't use quotes if you have nothing to quote. That's an assumption on your part.

I didn't put quotation marks to show an actual quote. I used them to show a general idea. That general idea is that Durant dominated while Carmelo did not.

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Okay...

National Player of the Year has to account for something here. Durant just dominated college basketball. Carmelo did not...
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:29 PM   #17
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Default Re: Durant Named AP POY: Better freshman season than Melo?

Both players had awesome freshman seasons. Durant was surrounded by mostly freshmen and an incompetent coach. Carmelo got to play in the godliest zone defense. That's a lot of the reason Syracuse won the championship that year along with Carmelo's excellent scoring.

Like the posters above me, I think Durant was the better player but Melo obviously had the better season with the championship and mvp's.
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:56 PM   #18
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Melo had a veteran cast? Where in Denver or Syracuse? If you say Syracuse please reveal the veteran cast for the board please.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:00 PM   #19
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Default Re: Durant Named AP POY: Better freshman season than Melo?

warrick and macnamara were studs in college... especially warrick.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:03 PM   #20
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warrick and macnamara were studs in college... especially warrick.

Warrick was a sophmore and Gerry was a freshman.

Keep trying. You nmed 2 starters tho. So kudos. Give me more.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:03 PM   #21
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warrick and macnamara were studs in college... especially warrick.

McNamara was a freshman just like Melo and Warrick was a sophomore, they weren't veterens.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:09 PM   #22
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Default Re: Durant Named AP POY: Better freshman season than Melo?

did you see how augustine played in the tourny? meanwhile macnamara was dropping clutch bombs left and right. and dont get started on warrick. dude was twice as good as anyone at texas not named durant.
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did you see how augustine played in the tourny? meanwhile macnamara was dropping clutch bombs left and right. and dont get started on warrick. dude was twice as good as anyone at texas not named durant.

And again i ask who was the "veteran cast" around Carmelo. You still cant answer it. So why continue to reply kid? Why?
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:23 PM   #24
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Default Re: Durant Named AP POY: Better freshman season than Melo?

when did i ever say he had a veteran cast? i didnt. and who cares anyways. syracuse flatout had a better team than texas.

anthony johnson is a veteran.. does that make him more valuable than wade? no. use your head gobb. aint you from philly? act like it. you act like youre from new york sometimes.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:25 PM   #25
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Default Re: Durant Named AP POY: Better freshman season than Melo?

Calling it a veteran cast was obviously a mistake. Though I think Carmelo was certainly on Durant's level, he did have a better supporting cast on both sides of the ball. UT's defensive effort against USC was piss poor, and no one besides Durant or Abrams could put the ball in the basket.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:29 PM   #26
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Default Re: Durant Named AP POY: Better freshman season than Melo?

To answer the topic, no i dont think Durant had a better freshman season than Carmelo. Melo dominated, produced, impacted and accomplished more. And while some may claim he had a better team/supporting cast, better head coach...it may be true but the margin isnt wide enough to use as support for why Durant had the better freshman season. Afterall, Melo was a freshman that led that team. No one else did. Team was just as young and inexperienced as Texas was. Melo had better handles and could go downlow and get his buckets whereas Drant was often forced to be a perimeter player either due his inability to break his man down and drive or him falling in love with the jumper.

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when did i ever say he had a veteran cast? i didnt.

But you made a comment to my post asking who were the veterans dumbass. Wow you really arent too bright are you? Even wang replied the same way at the same time because you reply was directed to me. Do me a favor and reprt me again for making you look like a fool.


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and who cares anyways

I care since it was said genius.

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syracuse flatout had a better team than texas

How much better? I'm not even implying they didnt or did. I just want you to reveal, support and defend your comments. I wanna see if you can do it. Because i honestly dont believe for one second you saw much of the team. Let alone followed them.

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anthony johnson is a veteran.. does that make him more valuable than wade? no. use your head gobb. aint you from philly? act like it. you act like youre from new york sometimes.



What are you mumbling about? First team all Dumbass at guard Dizzle.

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Old 03-30-2007, 02:35 PM   #27
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Default Re: Durant Named AP POY: Better freshman season than Melo?

Kueth Duany - senior
Jeremy McNeil - junior
Josh Pace - junior (I think)
Billy Edelin - not sure what year
Craig Forth - junior (maybe?)

I call that a veteran cast in the rotation.

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Old 03-30-2007, 02:40 PM   #28
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Pace & Forth were sophs, Edelin was a freshman. So one senior & junior in the rotation, hardly a veteran cast dude.
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Pace & Forth were sophs, Edelin was a freshman. So one senior & junior in the rotation, hardly a veteran cast dude.
Helluva lot more "veteran" than Texas.
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Kueth Duany - senior
Jeremy McNeil - junior
Josh Pace - junior (I think)
Billy Edelin - not sure what year
Craig Forth - junior (maybe?)

I call that a veteran cast in the rotation.

Thanks.

Billy was a freshman. 23mpg
Jerry Mcneil was a junior. 18mpg
Craig Forth was a sophmore. 17mpg
Josh Pacer was a sophmore. 15mpg

Yeah man veteran cast there.

Duany was the lone senior. Starting 5 consisted of 2 freshman, 2 sophmore and a senior. 6th man was a freshman for the most part.
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